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Anonymous Posted on Feb 05, 2012

Ignition coil packs not getting fire

Spark plug tips are wet from fuel but not firing.. individual coil pack per cylinder

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For spark plug problem,click the help links provided below :---Car has no spark?http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/06/car-has-no-spark.html
------------How to Replace Spark Plugs?http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/07/how-to-replace-spark-plugs.html
-------------Car cranks, has spark but will not start?

http://howtobyme.blogspot.com/2011/12/car-crankshas-spark-but-will-not-start.html

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The spark plug firing order for car?http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/06/spark-plug-firing-order-for-car.html
----------How to gap spark plug ?http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/how-to-gap-spark-plug-on-chevy-impala.html-----------Spark plug Replacing for?http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/spark-plug-replacing-for-chevy-impala.html
-----------How to identify number one spark plug on the distributor cap?http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/how-to-identify-number-one-spark-plug.html
---------How does the spark plug wire go on the distributor cap?http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/how-does-spark-plug-wires-go-on.html
---------Spark plug Firing Order Diagram?http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/2006-suzuki-forenza-spark-plug-firing.html
-----------This will help.Thanks.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 19, 2009

SOURCE: cylinder not firing

Could be somthing to do with remote start but check
your coils to see if they are both good. Use multimeter.
ohm out the coils for arround 12 v and see if they are good. then proceed form there.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 15, 2009

SOURCE: The car is running on 2 cylinder,

If you have no spark on the coil pack for these cylinders, try scanning the car to see if you get codes for a camshaft positioning sensor or crankshaft positioning sensor.

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Greg Bernett

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  • Posted on Jan 18, 2010

SOURCE: dont know how to take master cylinder off to

You shouldn't have to remove it....here are the steps from the tech manual:

Removal & Installation

  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. Label and disconnect the spark plug wires from each of the coil pack towers.
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Ignition coil removal—3.3L and 3.8L engines


  1. Disengage the electrical connector from the ignition coil pack.
  2. Remove the coil pack mounting fasteners.
  3. Remove the coil pack from the vehicle. If equipped, remove the coil pack from the mounting bracket.
To install:
  1. Place the coil pack into position on top of the engine valve cover, or mounting bracket, if equipped.
  2. Install and tighten the coil pack mounting fasteners to 9 ft. lbs. (12 Nm).
  3. Plug in the electrical connector to the ignition coil pack.
  4. Connect each spark plug wire to each corresponding coil pack tower. The coil pack towers are numbered with the correct cylinder identification. Be sure that the spark plug wires snap firmly onto each coil tower.
  5. Connect the negative battery cable.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 03, 2010

SOURCE: 1996 Chrysler LHS not firing

First, check the ECM fuse in the power control module (it will be a yellow 20 amp fuse). Second, check the timing belt. You can pull out the cam sensor and look in the hole while someone cranks the motor. If the cam gear is not turning, the timing belt is broken. VERY IMPORTANT - when replacing the cam sensor, get a special adhesive pad from a Chrysler dealer that attaches to the bottom of the sensor to set the proper gap (cost about $2). Install the cam sensor until the pad touches the gear and tighten down the locking bolt. The pad will wear off in normal running. If the gap is not set correctly using this gapping pad, you won't start.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 17, 2011

SOURCE: 2007 Pt Cruiser I Changed

I'm going to give this some thought and try to get back with you tomorrow....a cousin back home in Missouri is a MoPar nut and an excellent mechanic in his own right.

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