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Saturn Belt Tensioner...

I replaced my water pump 2 weeks ago and today my belt came loose...I tried to tighten it with the tensioner but it moves back and forth by hand is it bad or is there a way to fix tighten it???

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You probably have a bad tensioner, you cannot tighten a bad tensioner because the bearrings inside have gone bad so your belt will just keep coming off. I had the same problem, don't wait to fix this because your car can over heat, you can lose power steering without proper belt tension. Pay the few dollars now(and I do mean few) and avoid problems later.

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  4. Remove the drive belt from the right idler pulley.
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How do i put timing belt and water pump?

REMOVAL & INSTALLATION of timing belt: Fig. 1: View of the timing belt cover 91163p64.gif
Fig. 2: Loosen then timing belt tensioner using a ratchet and short socket 91163p65.gif
Fig. 3: Matchmark the direction of rotation of the timing belt 91163p67.gif
Fig. 4: Once loose, pull the belt off the camshaft pulley 91163p71.gif
  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. Turn the crankshaft to align the timing belt matchmarks and set cylinder No. 1 to Top Dead Center (TDC) on the compression stroke. Once in this position, the engine must NOT be turned or disturbed.
  3. Remove all necessary components to gain access to the cylinder head and timing belt covers.
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  6. Loosen the timing belt and balancer shafts tensioner adjuster nut, but do not loosen the nut more than 1 turn. Push the tensioner for the balancer belt away from the belt to relieve the tension. Hold the tensioner and tighten the adjusting nut to hold the tensioner in place.
  7. Carefully remove the balancer belt. Do not crimp or bend the belt; protect it from contact with oil or coolant. Slide the belt off the pulleys.
  8. Remove the balancer belt drive sprocket from the crankshaft.
  9. Loosen the lockbolt installed to the timing belt adjuster and loosen the adjusting nut. Push the timing belt adjuster to remove the tension on the timing belt, then tighten the adjuster nut.
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  15. The crankshaft timing pointer must be perfectly aligned with the white mark on the flywheel or flex-plate; the camshaft pulley must be aligned so that the word UP is at the top of the pulley and the marks on the edge of the pulley are aligned with the surfaces of the head.
  16. Install the timing belt over the pulleys and tensioners.
  17. Loosen the bolt used to lock the timing belt tensioner. Loosen, then tighten the timing belt adjusting nut.
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  19. Realign the timing belt marks, then install the balancer belt drive sprocket on the crankshaft.
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Changing the timing belt on a Hundai

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  2. Rotate the crankshaft clockwise and align the timing marks so No. 1 piston will be at Top Dead Center (TDC) of the compression stroke.
  3. Loosen the tensioning bolt and the pivot bolt on the timing belt tensioner. Move the tensioner as far as it will go toward the water pump. Tighten the adjusting bolt.
  4. Mark the timing belt with an arrow showing direction of rotation.
  5. Remove the timing belt.
  6. If defective, remove the timing belt tensioner.
  7. Align the timing marks of the camshaft sprocket and check that the crankshaft timing marks are still in alignment.
  8. If removed, install the timing belt tensioner, spring and spacer with the bottom end of the spring free. Tighten the adjusting bolt slightly with the tensioner moved as far as possible away from the water pump.
  9. Install the free end of the spring into the locating tang on the front case.
  10. Position the timing belt over the crankshaft sprocket, then over the camshaft sprocket. Slip the back of the belt over the tensioner wheel.
  11. Turn the camshaft sprocket in the opposite of its normal direction of rotation until the straight side of the belt is tight and be sure the timing marks align.
    NOTE If the timing marks are not properly aligned, shift the belt 1 tooth at a time in the appropriate direction until they are aligned.
  12. Loosen the tensioner mounting bolts so the tensioner works, without the interference of any friction, under spring pressure. Be sure the belt follows the curve of the camshaft pulley so the teeth are engaged all the way around. Correct the path of the belt, if necessary.
  13. Tighten the tensioner adjusting bolt, then the tensioner pivot bolt to 15-18 ft. lbs. (20-26 Nm).
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  15. Loosen both tensioner attaching bolts and let the tensioner position itself under spring tension. Retighten the bolts.
  16. Check belt tension by putting a finger on the water pump side of the tensioner wheel and pull the belt toward the water pump. The belt should move toward the pump until the teeth are approximately 1 / 2 of the way across the head of the tensioner adjusting bolt. Re-tension the belt, if necessary.
  17. Install the timing belt covers and all other related components.
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Very loose belt, can i tighten it

A loose belt is usually the result of a tensioner that is going bad. Check the tensioner, if you can move it with your hand it's time to replace it. The tensioner is designed to keep the belt tight as it get's older and stretches.
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Remove water pump

Disconnect battery earth lead. Do not turn crankshaft or camshaft whn timing beld removed. Remove spark plugs to ease turning engine. Turn engine in normal direction of rotation (unless otherwise stated) Do not turn engine via camshaft or other sprockets. Observe all tightening torques. Remove engine, remve RH engine mounting. Remove auxiliary drive belts, water pump pulley, crankshaft pulley, timing belt upper cover, timing belt lower cover. Turn crankshaft clockwise to TDC on No. 1 cylinder, slacken tensioner bolts 5 & 6. Move tensioner away from belt and lightly tighten bolts. Remove timing belt. Remove water pump and replace with new one. Suggest to replace cambelt as well.
Installation
Ensure timing marks aligned3 & 4. Fit timing belt in anti-clockwise direction, standing at crankshaft sprocket. Ensure belt is taut between sprockets on non-tensioned side. Slacken tensioner bolt 5. slacken tensioner bolt 6. Allow tensioner to operate. Tighten tensioner bolt 6. Tighten tensioner bolt 5. Turn crankshaft on turn clockwise. Ensure crankshaft sprocket timing marks aligned 4.
Slacken tensioner bolt 5. Slacken tensioner bolt 6. Allow tensioner to operate. Tighten tensioner 6. Tighten torque: 20 - 26 Nm. Tighten tensioner bolt 5. tighten torque: 20 - 26 Nm. Apply thumb pressure to belt at middle. Approximately 5kg. Belt should deflect to 1/4 of tensioner bolt head width 7. Belt tention can also be set using burroghs (BT-33-73F) tension gauge 10 at middle. Turn crankshaft 90 ° anti clockwise. Check belt tension is 9.5 16,5kg (engine must be cold). Install components in reverse order of removal. Fit cranckshaft pully. Tighten crankshaft pully bolts 8. G4-J: Tightening torque: 12-15Nm.
G4-N/G4-k: Tightening torque: 10-12Nm
G4EA: Tighten crankshaft pully bolt 9. Tighten torque: 140-150Nm.
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