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Anonymous Posted on May 30, 2012

Could a bad purge solenoid cause a delay in engaging in drive in an 02 montero?

  • Anonymous May 31, 2012

    We bought a used '02 montero limited from dealer. Within days of bringing it home we had a few issues. One was with the power antenna, no biggie. The second thing to happen was a delay with the truck engaging in drive. It doesn't happen every time. I would say 1 time out of 15. We unsuccessfully tried to figure out if there was a situation in which it would do it every time. Seemingly no rhyme nor reason. Then the service engine soon light came on. When we had it tested the code that came up was p0445, I think. We took it back to the dealership and they replaced the purge solenoid and said they couldn't get it to repeat the shift problem. Is it possible that that solenoid was causing the delay? We just got the truck back today and so far it seems fine.

  • Anonymous May 31, 2012

    The code was p0455

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No all that code does is turn on the check engine light, no symptoms except that.

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SOURCE: 2001 MONTERO SPORT 3.0L 6CYL

Follow the vacuum lines on the egr valve to the solenoid that actuates the egr valve. Check the fig and see the yellow arrow pointing solenoid and the white arrow is pointing to the EGR.:--163f91d.jpg
Check out.Thanks.

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SOURCE: where is the purge soleniod on a 02 montero sport

Under the hood is an emission system sticker, it has a diagram of the vacuum system that shows this valves general location, it is in most cases right next to the Carbon Vapor storage canister.

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How do I figure out what's causing a P0455 code? I had the purge valve and gas cap replaced.

DTC P0455: Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System Large Leak

Circuit/System Description
The powertrain control module (PCM) tests the evaporative emission (EVAP) system for a large leak. The PCM monitors the fuel tank pressure (FTP) sensor signal to determine the EVAP system vacuum level. When the conditions for running are met, the PCM commands the EVAP canister purge solenoid valve OPEN and the EVAP vent solenoid valve CLOSED . This allows engine vacuum to enter the EVAP system. At a calibrated time, or vacuum level, the PCM commands the EVAP canister purge solenoid valve closed, sealing the system, and monitors the FTP sensor input in order to determine the EVAP system vacuum level. The following table illustrates the relationship between the ON and OFF states, and the OPEN or CLOSED states of the EVAP canister purge and vent solenoid valves.

The red X by the 02 sensor on your scan tool has nothing to do with.


You had the gas cap and the purge valve replaced, how about the vent valve under the back of the car. These go bad, cause large leaks. Also check the fuel fill tube,they like to rust out causing large leaks. If all that is good you may won't to it to a repair shop an have it smoke tested.
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2009 GMC Acadia rpm is running high and giving p0497 code

hot or cold engine High and how high is RPM not told.
no it is not evap failing to cause RPM failures.
2 problems sure, but not THE problem
well gas cap loose or bad is first. simple fix that is
costs nothing, and cap good or cap bad $10 fix.but not RPM off.
then purge solenoid.
RPM high is the best clue here. for sure
mine fails every 50k miles it seems and pull the valve
and flex the valve inside while spraying silicon oil spray inside it
and it goes 50k more miles costing me 50 cents lube.
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Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System No Flow During Purge

the test in the service manual are extensive
example
  • A loose, missing, or damaged fuel fill cap can cause this DTC to set.
  • A stuck closed, blocked, or restricted EVAP canister purge solenoid valve, can cause this DTC to set.
  • A blockage or restriction in the EVAP canister purge solenoid valve vacuum supply hose, EVAP canister purge solenoid valve purge pipe, EVAP canister, or vapor pipe, can cause this DTC to set.
  • A temporary blockage in the EVAP canister purge solenoid valve, purge pipe or EVAP canister could cause an intermittent condition. Inspect and repair any restriction in the EVAP system.
  • To help locate intermittent leaks, use the J 41413-200 Evaporative Emissions System Tester (EEST) to introduce smoke into the EVAP system. Move all EVAP components while observing smoke with the J 41413-SPT High Intensity White Light. Introducing smoke in 15 second intervals will allow less pressure into the EVAP system. When the system is less pressurized, the smoke will sometimes escape in a more condensed manner.
  • To improve the visibility of the smoke exiting the EVAP system, observe the suspected leak area from different angles with the J 41413-SPT .
  • Observe the Freeze Frame/Failure Records vehicle mileage since the diagnostic test last failed may help determine how often the condition occurs that caused the DTC to set. This may assist in diagnosing the condition.

the valve is here "P"
#10 if it leaks running, stuck open rpm can go wild
or the hose to it is cracked
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2003 Mitsubish Montero Sport AWD shifts into 3,2 and low will not move when its placed in D..any answers

Likely to be shift solenoids. You need a transmission expert or an auto electrician with a pro grade scan tool computer to diagnose. They are bi-directional so can instruct solenoids to work and verify that they do.
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Where is the purge valve located on the fuel rail on a 2000 Mitsubishi Montero Sport

The purge solenoid is part of the evaporative (EVAP) emissions system which handles fuel vapors. The fuel rail is part of the fuel supply system which handles liquid fuel. Therefore, the purge solenoid will not be located on the fuel rail. Service information for the 2000 Montero Sport 3.0L/3.5L shows that the purge solenoid is located at the center/rear of the engine compartment near the throttle body. It has two black rubber hoses; one which connects to a port on the intake manifold and the other to the EVAP canister. It also has one electrical connector with two wires; one yellow/black wire and one red wire. You can read about how to replace the EVAP system purge solenoid here: https://www.yourmechanic.com/article/how-to-replace-a-canister-purge-solenoid-by-timothy-charlet
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Location of the purge valve soleniod on a 2006 3.8L Town and Country

To cause a P0443, there has to be a problem with the purge control CIRCUIT, not necessarily the valve. Usually they are a unit housing the valve and the solenoid as an assembly. Or it could be comprised of a separate solenoid with vacuum lines to a purge valve. That said, it could be any of the following:
  • Bad purge solenoid (internal short or open)
  • Wiring harness chafing or rubbing another component causing short or open on control circuit
  • Connector worn, broken or shorted due to water intrusion
  • Driver circuit inside powertrain control module (PCM) is bad
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02 Saturn SC1 = I replaced the purge valve solenoid, located above the starter. My service engine soon light still came back on. (I'd turned it off, but it reappeared) The same code still exists. The...

Not sure if these photos got downloaded ...
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There are web references to various Saturn EVAP issues .. not always pointing to the same root cause.
Troubleshooting these are not always easy since numerous things can fail to throw the OBDII code.
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PO144 purge solenoid flow 2002 mitsubishi montero 3.5L

Diagnostic Test Code DTC P0144 is not a valid code for your Montero. It is also not a purge solenoid code even if it was a valid code.

Do you mean DTC P0441?
The computer commands the purge solenoid to open and apply vacuum on the evaporative emissions system and moitors the fuel tank pressure (FTP) sensor to see if vacuum is being applied. It also commands the purge solenoid to close and closes the vent solenoid and monitors the FTP data to see if vacuum is being applied when it is not supposed to.
DTC P0441 sets when either the vacuum does not apply when it is commanded to or there is vacuum being applied when is is commanded not to.

Possible causes are mechanically sticking or leaking purge solenoid, clogged, collapsed, or disconnected purge vapor lines. This is not likely to be caused by the purge solenoid electrical circuits since this is not a circuit code.
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Code says evaporator purge solenoid

Which code specifically? Do not assume you need a new solenoid. Our recommendation will depend on the specific code and some troubleshooting results. I usually recommend checking over all the EVAP vacuum lines and the gas cap too whenever there is a purge valve code. Check the vacuum lines at the cannister in the left rear bumper. I will paste info on the purge solenoid below.

P0440 Evaporative emission (EVAP) system - malfunction

Possible causes: Hose connection(s), intake leak, EVAP canister purge valve


P0441 Evaporative emission (EVAP) system - incorrect flow detected

Possible causes: Hose connection(s), intake leak, EVAP canister purge valve


P0442 Evaporative emission (EVAP) system - small leak detected

Possible causes: Hose connection(s), intake leak, EVAP canister, EVAP canister purge valve


P0443 Evaporative emission (EVAP) canister purge valve - circuit malfunction

Possible causes: Wiring, EVAP canister purge valve, ECM


P0444 Evaporative emission (EVAP) canister purge valve -open circuit

Possible causes: Wiring open circuit, EVAP canister purge valve, ECM


P0445 Evaporative emission (EVAP) canister purge valve -short circuit

Possible causes: Wiring short circuit, EVAP canister purge valve, ECM


P0450 Evaporative emission (EVAP) pressure sensor - circuit malfunction

Possible causes: Wiring, EVAP pressure sensor, ECM


P0455 Evaporative emission (EVAP) system - large leak detected

Possible causes: Hose connection(s), intake leak, EVAP canister, EVAP canister purge valve


P0456 Evaporative emission system - very small leak detected

Possible causes: Mechanical fault, hose connection(s), EVAP pressure "sensor


P0457 Evaporative emission system - leak detected (fuel cap loose/off)

Possible causes: Mechanical fault, hose connection(s), EVAP pressure sensor


P0458 Evaporative emission system, purge control valve -circuit low

Possible causes: Wiring short to earth, EVAP valve


P0459 Evaporative emission system, purge control valve -circuit high
Possible causes: Wiring short to positive, EVAP valve


Evaporative Emission Purge Solenoid

Description & Operation
The duty cycle EVAP canister purge solenoid (DCP) regulates the rate of vapor flow from the EVAP canister to the intake manifold. The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) operates the solenoid.
During the cold start warm-up period and the hot start time delay, the PCM does not energize the solenoid. When de-energized, no vapors are purged. The PCM de-energizes the solenoid during open loop operation.
The engine enters closed loop operation after it reaches a specified temperature and the time delay ends. During closed loop operation, the PCM cycles (energizes and de-energizes) the solenoid 5 or 10 times per second, depending upon operating conditions. The PCM varies the vapor flow rate by changing solenoid pulse width. Pulse width is the amount of time that the solenoid is energized. The PCM adjusts solenoid pulse width based on engine operating condition.
Removal & Installation
The duty cycle evaporative (EVAP) canister purge solenoid is located in the engine compartment near the brake master cylinder.

  1. Disconnect electrical connector at solenoid.
  2. Disconnect vacuum lines at solenoid.
  3. Lift solenoid slot from mounting bracket for Removal & Installation.

To Install:
  1. Position solenoid slot to mounting bracket.
  2. Connect vacuum lines to solenoid. Be sure vacuum lines are firmly connected and not leaking or damaged. If leaking, a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) may be set with certain emission packages.
  3. Connect electrical connector to solenoid.
Purge solenoid location:

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EVAP cannister location:
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Mitsu Montero Sport '02 engine stalls but not when air cond is on.

hi there. the reason that the engine idles good when the air-con is engaged is that ussually all vehicles nowadays have a vacumm advance mechanism. this is triggered mainly by a electric solenoid valve which is also attached parallel to the source supplying power to compressor. a small vacumm hose with a diameter like a common pencil or ballpen case. its made of rubber and it runs from the alternator vacumm pump then to the solenoid valve and to the vacumm advancer unit attached to the injection pump throttle. this system raises the idle a tad higher.

if your montero runs completely normal and you experience no other problems with your engine except for your present problem, then the solution is just raising the idle a little higher. if your montero is equiped with a RPM guage on the dash, try adjusting the idle to around 800 rpms. it would be healthier for your car if the idle raises a bit when you engage the air-con because this would compensate for the added load on your engine.

hope this helps.
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4x4 indicator flashing all the time wnen not engaged

2001 Mitsubishi MONTERO 01 - Transfer Case > POWER TRAIN : TRANSFER CASE (4-WHEEL DRIVE) [Part 104000 ]
TSB No: 0223007 NHTSA ID: , November 01, 2002 : Replacement:
Summary: 4wd indicator lamp flashing / diagnostic trouble code (dtc) 33.

2001-02 Montero
A flashing 4WD indicator lamp and/or DTC 33 may be caused by corroded transfer case shift position switches. The original switches are susceptible to water damage, and new revised switches are available to prevent the problem.

PROCEDURE

1. Replace the five transfer switches

2. Clear the DTC, using the scan tool.

3. Test drive the vehicle to confirm the 4WD indicator lamp does not flash and DTC 33 does not reset.
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