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Anonymous Posted on Jan 16, 2013

Which relay controls the electric windows in my 30 lx tdi

I have tested the window motors and they are fine. If I supply direct power to the window switches, they operate normally but I cannot find power to the switches in the loom, so I am assuming this is controlled by a relay. Which one is it??( All fuses have been checked)

  • Anonymous Jan 19, 2013

    my windows are working again.

  • montehammons Jan 19, 2013

    That's great. What was it?

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Often, power windows are run from a circuit breaker in the fuse panel. At the driver's door master switch you should have one hot powered wire, when key is on. And the ground wire for the power windows originates at the master switch and goes back into the cabin to a nearby ground. You may want to look at a wiring diagram of the power windows for your vehicle to see if it is like this. But you should be working at the master switch, and you should be looking for this hot wire, or it or the ground wire may be broken where the loom enters the door. I found a broken ground wire there on a Chrysler once-just like yours, no windows worked, but all motors did.

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SOURCE: blower motor not working 1994 jeep cherokee

Sounds like your blower motor rheostat needs to be replaced. I'm about to replace mine for the second time. Fan just quits working altogether when the rheostat goes.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 04, 2008

SOURCE: power window relay or control unit

Control unit (with MANY wires) is inside trunk on right side and there is a fuse box with 3 fuses at the "REAR"...assume trunk again...I have schematic only...remove the Control unit wire connectors and re-insert them to polish the contacts...

daveleeyates

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  • Posted on Mar 24, 2009

SOURCE: Power windows & locks all fail

hi, i reocommend that you check the wiring harness in the drivers door around the hinge area where the wiring from the car goes into the door itself, sounds like you may have a broken cable.
Good luck Davelee.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 26, 2009

SOURCE: window switch for driver control and passenger switch window

sounds like you have a passenger window motor problem. Try hitting the right door panel hard, down near the speaker opening and pushing the switch at the same time. If it moves, the motor windings are and needs to be replaced.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 26, 2009

SOURCE: VW Polo 2000 1.4 16V Blowing fuse for Central locking / windows

car electrics are a nightmare. the car lights up when a door is open i presume. and by bypassing the central locking. the electric computer says there is a fault. and will not start. that i think is programed in. best thing to do is. go to phone VW dealer ask about diagnostic test without repair. about £35 then fix it yourself. they garentee it right I think. the dealers have come into line better with that kind of thing phone and ask anyway.

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My 2004 GMC Envoy SUV midgate window won't go up!! any ideas??? The switch is okay!!

Relay maybe .Doesn't look like a relay is involved for window . Looking at a wiring diagram an using a volt meter to test electrical circuit would be the way to find the problem . Do you know how to test automotive electrical circuits ? How to read a wiring diagram ?
Midgate Components
The midgate consists of the following components:
• Midgate window switch
• Midgate latch release switch
• Midgate window regulator
• Left midgate latch
• Right midgate latch
• Midgate latch relay
• Midgate 25-amp window regulator circuit breaker
• Midgate 15-amp latch relay circuit breaker

Midgate Window Control
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• Midgate window switch
• Midgate 25-amp window regulator circuit breaker

Reading a little more from service repair manual i do see a relay , it's part of the window motor assembly . Could possibly be the window regulator . You need to take midgate panel off an look inside . Test electric to the motor while in then .
Midgate Window Operation
When the midgate window switch is activated to Up, battery voltage is supplied to the coil of the midgate window up relay in the window motor, energizing the relay. When the window up relay is energized, the window is driven in the Up direction.
When the midgate window switch is activated to Down, battery voltage is supplied to the coil of the midgate window down relay in the window motor, energizing the relay. When the window down relay is energized, the window is driven in the Down direction.

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2004 GMC Truck Envoy - 2WD ' Bravada, Envoy, Rainier, TrailBlazer (VIN S/T) Service Manual ' Body ' Body Rear End ' Repair Instructions ' Document ID: 1252579
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Midgate Window Regulator Replacement
Removal Procedure
Remove the midgate inner panel. Refer to Midgate Inner Panel Replacement .
Remove the midgate window. Refer to Midgate Window Replacement .
Disconnect the midgate window regulator electrical connector (1).
Remove the midgate window position switch (2) from the window regulator. Refer to Midgate Window Position Switch Replacement .
Remove the nuts retaining the window regulator to the midgate.
Remove the regulator from the midgate.
Installation Procedure
Install the regulator to the midgate.
Notice: Refer to Fastener Notice in the Preface section.
Install the nuts retaining the window regulator to the midgate.
Tighten
Tighten the window regulator nuts to 25 N·m (18 lb ft).
Install the midgate window position switch (2) to the window regulator. Refer to Midgate Window Position Switch Replacement .
Connect the window regulator electrical connector (1).
Install the midgate window. Refer to Midgate Window Replacement .
Check and adjust the midgate window alignment to the weatherstrip channel. Refer to Midgate Window Replacement .
Install the midgate inner panel. Refer to Midgate Inner Panel Replacement .
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• RR wiper 15A circuit breaker
• WASH 20A fuse
Rear Wiper/Washer System Controls
• Body control module (BCM)
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DTC B1017 or B3970

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There is a circuit breaker for power windows .
Power Window System Components
The power window system consists of the following components:
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Driver Door Switch (DDS)


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Passenger Door Switch (PDS)


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Body Control Module (BCM)


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Rear door power window switches


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Power window motors in each of the doors


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PWR WDO Circuit Breaker


Power Window System Controls
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The driver master control switches are integrated into the DDS. When a power window switch is activated in the up or down positions the DDS supplies power and ground to the window motor control circuits to drive the window motor in the required direction. Prior to activating a power window motor the DDS will supply the control circuit with a low current bias voltage in order to determine that a short to ground condition does not exist and during window motor operation the DDS continues to monitor the motor current to verify proper window motor operation.
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Check this circuit breaker
RETAINED ACCSRY PRW BRKR 30 amp. located in the left instrument panel fuse box . if the breaker is good check power B+ at the drivers door switch . connector 1 terminal b yellow wire . Sometimes the wires inside the rubber boot coming from body to door break .

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Where is the power window relay located in a 2002 mercury villager?

Principles of Operation
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The driver power window regulator motor is a reversible motor that is operated by applying power and ground to the motor leads to lower the window, and then reversing polarity on those leads to raise the window.
The passenger power window regulator motor is controlled directly by the passenger power window switch and can also be controlled by the master window/door lock/unlock switch. Power is supplied to the power window relay and the master window/door lock/unlock switch, and the passenger power window switch when the SEC/timer module grounds the coil side of the power window relay. The SEC/timer module will ground this relay when the ignition is in the ON position and will remain energized for approximately 15 minutes or until the driver or passenger door is opened.
The passenger power window regulator motor is a reversible motor, which is operated by applying power and ground to the motor leads to lower the window, and then reversing polarity on those leads to raise the window.
The power rear quarter glass is also directly controlled by the master window/door lock/unlock switch. The power rear quarter glass power latches also utilize reversible motors. The power rear quarter glass power latches are operated by applying power and ground to the motor leads to open the window, and then reversing polarity on those same leads to close the window.
Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
  • Improperly aligned window
  • Damaged window mounting
  • Window frame interference
  • Central junction box (CJB) Fuses:
    • F30 (10A)
    • F32 (20A)
    • F34 (20A)
    • F59 (7.5A)
  • Battery junction box (BJB) Fuses:
    • F20 (30A)
    • F27 (45A)
  • Switches
  • Circuits
  • Connectors
  • Heated back light
  • Relays
Which window is not working ?
  • Single power window is inoperative
  • Front door power window switch.
  • Front door power window regulator.
  • Circuit.
  • Driver door power window switch.
  • GO to Pinpoint Test B .
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Which Relay/Fuse controls the power windows?

Did you check for battery voltage at the switch , with a volt meter before you replaced the main driver door switch ? Maybe you'll want to take this to pro ,instead of just replacing parts !
Symptom Chart Condition Possible Sources Action
  • No communication with the smart junction box (SJB)
  • Circuitry
  • SJB
  • REFER to Section 419-10 .
  • A single power window is inoperative - driver front power window is inoperative/does not operate correctly
  • Power window motor regulator and motor
  • Circuitry
  • Window control switch
  • Smart junction box (SJB)
  • Go To Pinpoint Test A .
  • A single power window is inoperative - passenger front, left rear or right rear
  • Power window motor regulator and motor
  • Circuitry
  • Window control switch
  • Go To Pinpoint Test B .
  • All power windows are inoperative
  • Smart junction box (SJB) fuse 30 (10A)
  • SJB circuit breaker 10 (30A)
  • Circuitry
  • Delayed accessory relay
  • Battery saver relay
  • Driver window control switch
  • SJB
  • Go To
PINPOINT TEST C: ALL POWER WINDOWS ARE INOPERATIVE Test Step Result / Action to Take C1 CHECK FOR CORRECT OPERATION OF THE INTERIOR LIGHTS
  • Turn on the interior lights.
  • Do the interior lights operate normally?
Yes
GO to C2 .

No
To continue diagnosis, REFER to Section 417-02 . C2 CHECK CIRCUIT 400 (LB/BK) FOR VOLTAGE TO THE DRIVER WINDOW CONTROL SWITCH
  • Disconnect: Driver Window Control Switch C504b.
  • Key in ON position.
  • Measure the voltage between the driver window control switch C504b pin 4, circuit 400 (LB/BK), harness side and ground.
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  • Is the voltage greater than 10 volts?
Yes
GO to C4 .

No
GO to C3 . C3 CHECK CIRCUIT 400 (LB/BK) FOR AN OPEN OR SHORT TO GROUND
  • Key in OFF position.
  • Disconnect: SJB C2280c.
  • Measure the resistance between the driver window control switch C504b pin 4, circuit 400 (LB/BK), harness side and the SJB C2280c pin 17, circuit 400 (LB/BK), harness side; and between the driver window control switch C504b pin 4, circuit 400 (LB/BK), harness side and ground.
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  • Is the resistance less than 5 ohms between the driver window control switch and the SJB; and greater than 10,000 ohms between the driver window control switch and ground?
Yes
Go To Pinpoint Test H

No
REPAIR the circuit. TEST the system for normal operation.
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I have an 2003 Acura TL-S. The drivers window will not go up or down. try the new switch and checked the motor both are fine. fuses all check OK. But can't fine the relay to check

Until you get yourself a wiring diagram & change the
way you go about testing electrical circuits-your done

Why a new switch--no testing of the old one?

Checked the motor how-removed the door panel
& put battery voltage directly to --it in both directions?

All the other windows work?

No power to the window switch (need wiring diagrams there)

Wiring going into door not a problem !
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I have a 2007 Mercury Mariner. The power windows just stopped working. It seems like a switch or something not the motor since there is no sound at all when the buttons are pushed. The lock buttons work on...

There is a black rubber flex boot between the body an the door ,power and ground wire's for the switch run through it . Opening an closing the door over time can cause the wires to break . Pulling the door inside trim panel to get to the switch wiring connector to test for B+ voltage an ground is the way to test electrical . Looking at a wiring diagram to see what wire is what should be done also. Do power lock's work ?

Window Operation
The window system operates under the control of the accessory delay relay. The smart junction box (SJB) will ground the coil side of the accessory delay relay when the ignition switch is in the ON position. When the accessory delay relay is active, power is supplied to each window control switch. The window control switches direct power and ground to the appropriate power window motor.

If the other windows work ,it's not a fuse problem . Broken wire's ,master switch !
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There should be a relay. Probably located in the PDU box under the hood. If not the motor might be going bad.
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This may be just a case of inadvertently hitting the window lock out n th driver door window switch by mistake. Check that first. Here's some background on window operation

Principles of Operation
The driver power window regulator motor is controlled directly by the master window/door lock/unlock switch (and its integrated "auto down" module). Power is supplied to the power window relay and the master window/door lock/unlock switch, and the passenger power window switch when the SEC/timer module grounds the coil side of the power window relay. The SEC/timer module will ground this relay when the ignition is in the ON position and will remain energized for approximately 15 minutes or until the driver or passenger door is opened.
The driver power window regulator motor is a reversible motor that is operated by applying power and ground to the motor leads to lower the window, and then reversing polarity on those leads to raise the window.
The passenger power window regulator motor is controlled directly by the passenger power window switch and can also be controlled by the master window/door lock/unlock switch. Power is supplied to the power window relay and the master window/door lock/unlock switch, and the passenger power window switch when the SEC/timer module grounds the coil side of the power window relay. The SEC/timer module will ground this relay when the ignition is in the ON position and will remain energized for approximately 15 minutes or until the driver or passenger door is opened.
The passenger power window regulator motor is a reversible motor, which is operated by applying power and ground to the motor leads to lower the window, and then reversing polarity on those leads to raise the window.
The power rear quarter glass is also directly controlled by the master window/door lock/unlock switch. The power rear quarter glass power latches also utilize reversible motors. The power rear quarter glass power latches are operated by applying power and ground to the motor leads to open the window, and then reversing polarity on those same leads to close the window.
Symptom Chart Condition Possible Sources Action
  • All windows are inoperative
  • BJB Fuse:
    • F20.
  • Circuit.
  • Power window relay.
  • Front door power window switch.
  • GO to Pinpoint Test A .
  • Single power window is inoperative
  • Front door power window switch.
  • Front door power window regulator.
  • Circuit.
  • Driver door power window switch.
  • GO to Pinpoint Test B .
  • Vent power window is inoperative — quarter window glass power latch
  • Circuit.
  • Quarter window glass switch.
  • Quarter window glass power latch.
  • GO to Pinpoint Test C .
  • The one touch down feature is inoperative
  • Master window regulator and door lock switch.
  • INSTALL a new master window/door lock/unlock switch. REFER to Switch—Master Window Door Lock/Unlock .
  • The back window will not defrost
  • CJB Fuses:
    • F30 (10A).
    • F32 (20A).
    • F34 (20A).
  • BJB Fuse:
    • F27 (45A)
  • Circuit.
  • Heated back window switch.
  • SEC/timer module.
  • Rear window defrost relay.
  • GO to Pinpoint Test D .
  • The back window defrost will not shut off automatically
  • SEC/timer module.
  • Circuit.
  • Rear window defrost relay.
  • GO to Pinpoint Test E .

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