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Anonymous Posted on Mar 05, 2013

My jeep stalls while driving can it be the idle air control or can it be a short in my wires to the pcm

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The most common cause of that is either a failing fuel pump or crank position sensor. The CPS will generally leave a readable trouble code. To check the pump, immediately after it stalls, turn the key off, then to "run" and have someone listen at the tank to see if it's pumping (hum). If not, bang on the tank bottom. If the pump comes back on, it's binding internally and needs replacement. (I know...sounds crude but it works!)

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SOURCE: jeep wrangler stalls out

check idle air control, tps & map sensor. As usual with electronics, test test test before buying anything/

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  • Posted on Jun 03, 2009

SOURCE: where is the pcm on 1997 jeep grand cherokee 6 cyl?

I don't think the PCM is your problem, is the check engine light on? It could be you idle air control motor this is located on the throttle body, but because this happens while driving I am thinking you will need to replace your crank shaft position sensor it is located on the transmissinon bell housing it is very hard to replace without the correct tools. If the check engine light is on take it to a local auto parts store and ask if they can check the check engine codes for you they usally will do this for free.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 22, 2009

SOURCE: where is the idle air control valve located on a 2004 jeep wrangl

its located on the throttle body, and yes its pretty easy to replace

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 06, 2009

SOURCE: 96 grande cherokee has short in/around pcm,it cuts out when wiggl

Remove the harness plug and check each pin for corrosion and connection to the wire behind it. The problem is a wire or wire connection, but I can't tell you which one but likely its a ground or power lead as sensors would usually not shut it off but would give you a component failure code and check engine light.

Andy Lebel

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  • Posted on Oct 27, 2009

SOURCE: 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Keeps stalling, engine

P0505 means the whole Idle Control system, not only the IAM. Check all related sensors (i.e. crankshaft sensor). Check with a voltmeter direct at the connector of the IAM if you get any signal. Remove the IAM from the TB, connect him, let someone switch your ignition key to ON. The IAM need to drive in/out for a short time to find the right position. Hold the IAM near a hard part, that they cant drive out completely! If IAM works fine, check the fuel pressure, check and clean your TB ( if not done yet). If that doesn't work, come back again please

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the IAC on this car is a motor controlled air air valve for idle speeds
hot or cold engine both and 100% PCM controlled,
IAC is what controls idle

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CLASSIC CAUSES THERE, ARE SHORTED INJECTORS OR SHORTED O2 SENSORS. DEAD SHORTS.
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The IAC motor is located on the back of the throttle body.
below is the IAC motor schematic.
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all 3 the IAC gunked up, every 50km miles.(egr/pcv caused)

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Where is the IAC on my 2002 Toyota Echo?

The IAC is on the bottom of the throttle body and has a hole in the bottom of the throttle body that lets air into the IAC. YOu do not have to remove it, if you do remove it the throttle body would have to come off and a new gasket would be required. Usually spraying through with throttle body cleaner will clean the IAC so it functions properly.

About your P0505 faut code, The IAC (Idle Air Control) valve controls the idle speed of the engine. At idle the throttle plate is closed, of course. The IAC is computer controlled and allows only a certain amount of air around the throttle plate. This metered air controls the idle speed. The IAC has a "plunger" or "shutter" that moves to open or close the bypass air passageway. The more air the IAC allows around the throttle plate, the higher the idle. The PCM (Powertrain Control Module) uses the IAC valve to keep the idle speed correct with varying engine demands. Can be a three or four wire sensor depending on the model.
The PCM monitors voltages of the IAC circuits and if it detects an incorrect voltage on one or more of the IAC motor circuits it will set P0505. NOTE: Problems with the IAC would only be noticeable at idle or when throttle is closed.

Symptoms may include:MIL (Malfunction Indicator Lamp) illuminationEngine stalls and may not idle unless throttle is depressedIntermittently stalls when letting off the throttleEngine may idle too high

Potential causes of an P0505 code include:IAC motor connector is damaged (check connector and pins for damage, and moisture)One or more IAC circuits open or shorted to groundOne or more IAC circuits are shorted to voltageIAC has failedPCM has failed

Possible Solutions:This should be a fairly straightforward diagnosis. Start by clearing the fault codes. Then unplug the IAC and start the engine (This may cause other IAC codes to set. Just ignore them for now). If the P0505 code doesn't reset, replace the IAC. It is internally shorting one of the IAC circuits. If the code DOES return after unplugging the IAC and starting the engine, then you know it isn't the IAC motor. Visually check the wiring harness all the way back to the PCM. You may need to visually inspect the harness by removing all the insulation off the wires. It is possible that the wires could be shorting to eachother or to other wires in the harness.
If there are no wiring problems, and the code keeps returning with the IAC unplugged, you can check the PCM by removing the IAC wires from the PCM connector (or clipping the wires in a location where they can be repaired easily) and then start the engine (If you're not sure, don't do it. Take it to a qualified professional). Now if the code doesn't reset there is a problem with the wiring. Check for continuity on all the IAC wires. Any resistance points to a problem. Check for voltage on any(At this point there shouldn't be any voltages on the wires because they're clipped at one end and unplugged at the IAC). Repair as necessary. But if the P0505 code DOES reset after removing the IAC wires from the PCM connector(or clipping them), replace the PCM, there's a problem internally on the IAC control circuit.

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Is there a such thing as a idle airflow control cylonoid?

year, make, model, engine size?

If you have an older jeep you will have an IAC (idle air control) valve. This is what controls engine speed at idle. It will be mounted to the side of the throttle body. It will be round, usually silver, and have about 4 wires going to it.

Newer jeeps will have whats called drive by wire. The throttle is controlled by an electric motor that receives inputs from the PCM to control idle speed and acceleration. There is no mechanical linkage between the gas pedal and the throttle on these vehicles and they no longer need an IAC.

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P0505 - IAC (Idle Air Control) System Malfunction

The IAC (Idle Air Control) valve controls the idle speed of the engine. At idle the throttle plate is closed, of course. The IAC is computer controlled and allows only a certain amount of air around the throttle plate. This metered air controls the idle speed. The IAC has a "plunger" or "shutter" that moves to open or close the bypass air passageway. The more air the IAC allows around the throttle plate, the higher the idle. The PCM (Powertrain Control Module) uses the IAC valve to keep the idle speed correct with varying engine demands. Can be a three or four wire sensor depending on the model.

The PCM monitors voltages of the IAC circuits and if it detects an incorrect voltage on one or more of the IAC motor circuits it will set P0505. NOTE: Problems with the IAC would only be noticeable at idle or when throttle is closed.

Symptoms may include:
* MIL (Malfunction Indicator Lamp) illumination
* Engine stalls and may not idle unless throttle is depressed
* Intermittently stalls when letting off the throttle
* Engine may idle too high


Potential causes of an P0505 code include:
* IAC motor connector is damaged (check connector and pins for damage, and moisture)
* One or more IAC circuits open or shorted to ground
* One or more IAC circuits are shorted to voltage
* IAC has failed
* PCM has failed


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4: ever get a tune up this decade?????
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OUR 4.0l HAS A RAIL PACK, COIL
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unless rich and super lucky , try using a scan tool
when the engine misfire, or stalls.
and report all errors seen, DTCs, a win/win.
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