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Where can I safely tap 12v power to add another circuit?

I want to safely add a circuit that would draw 30 amp and be on only when the engine is running. Any ideas?

  • knalandandca Apr 21, 2009

    Anyone know of after market plug in relays? Something to plug into the courtesy center or fuse box?

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Check the ignition wires with a test light and locate the wire that goes on and off with the key turned
Auto part stores sell an adaptive positive battery cable connector tap off this with #12 wire to one side of a 30A relay tap the other side (load) this goes to your device then: tap off the other side of the relay (switch) cut the wire to the ignition feed; then back to the ignition switch use #18 wire with either wirenuts or, crimp connectors for this and, don't forget to ground ask the auto parts person to show you the "load" side (your device" and, the "switch" side of the relay.

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Start from the other end. All Power has to come from the Battery.
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