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My GMC acadia has a short circuit and the engine keeps running after key has been removed from swicth. It also drains the battery from day to day. I have been in two dealers and they do not find the problem. I will really apprecciate if someone can provide a wiring diagram so I could troubleshoot the problem myself.

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I don't think a wiring diagram would help you without knowing how the vehicle work's > The ignition switch is a low voltage discrete input to the BCM - body control module . The BCM , from the discrete input's from the ignition switch set the power mode of the vehicle .
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This vehicles BCM functions as the power mode master (PMM). The ignition switch is a low current switch with multiple discrete ignition switch signals to the PMM for determination the power mode that will be sent over the serial data circuits to the other modules that need this information, and so the PMM will activate relays and other direct outputs of the PMM as needed. Refer to Power Mode Description and Operation for a complete description of power mode functions.

Depending on the power mode , ACC, RUN , START etc.. the BCM will energize relay's turning on the vehicle . It is very possible that you may have a relay that the contacts are stuck closed . This would cause the vehicle to stay in a run mode .
The IGN relay contacts stuck closed would keep B+ voltage to the engine computer , transmission , air bags . This relay is located in the under hood fuse box . I'am sure there are other relays too . I will keep looking. in the mean time remove the IGN relay an see what happens .

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  • Jeff Armer Dec 09, 2017

    Also the PWR/TRN relay in the under hood fuse box . This will keep the ECM -engine computer an the coil's powered up .

  • Jeff Armer Dec 09, 2017

    Plus the fuel injectors

  • Jeff Armer Dec 09, 2017

    It could also have a Power Mode Mismatch . I would think the dealer tech would have found that if it were the problem . They over look the simple an look for bigger problems .
    This vehicles power mode master (PMM) is the body control module (BCM). The ignition switch is a low current switch with multiple discrete ignition switch signals to the PMM for determination of the power mode. The PMM receives the ignition switch signals, and additionally a reference voltage signal from the BCM, through the ignition switch, and back to the BCM. There are redundancies within the PMM system that can allow operation of certain subsystems when there are faults in the ignition switch circuits. Other information such as serial data input from other modules and DTCs is also used to determine what power mode signals and information is transmitted by the PMM. The BCM logic uses all this information to identify the operators desired power mode and activate specific discrete signals, and serial data messages for the operation of many different subsystems as necessary. Other modules which have switched voltage inputs may operate in a default mode if the PMM serial data message does not match what the individual module can see from its own connections.

    The PMM will activate relays and other direct outputs of the PMM as needed according to the calculated power mode. Several relays controlled by the BCM are switched ignition voltage outputs the are pass through circuits within the BCM directly from the ignition switch. If these circuits short to ground, the fuse to the ignition switch will open.

    Some system functions may operate one time and not the next with a specific fault in the ignition switch circuits depending on the vehicle operating conditions when the fault occurred.

    One of the first thing's would have been to check for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble code's in all the modules on the vehicle .

  • Jeff Armer Dec 09, 2017

    Plus looking at ignition input's to the BCM ,to see what power mode it think's it's in .

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Do you have an aftermarket alarm or other system hooked up to the ignition system?

You need to provide the specific year, engine size, and model Acadia as well, such as if it is an LT or not for a proper diagram. Even with a wiring diagram, it's going to be a needle in a haystack that you will be looking for.

This sounds like you have some sort of aftermarket system that has a relay or capacitor that is delaying the cut off to the switch, which will explain the delay in shutting off and the drain on your battery.

Here's a test I would start with to see if you can narrow things down...

Remove the positive cable and hook a test light between the post and the positive cable and the test light will light up. Go to your fuse panel and pull each fuse one at a time and replace it, going from one to the next until the light goes out. That will be the circuit that is causing the drain. Hopefully you will be able to isolate the offending device, and hopefully correct the back feed into your ignition system at the same time.

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i have had a radar detector hooked up for about a year now which is ALWAYS on, even when the car is off and it has finally started to take its toll on the battery, I think. The problem isnt your specific car, its the way they designed ALL of them.

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Looking under the hood, there is a black box on the right with 6 or 8 torx head screws. You will need (I think)T-25 Torx bit and atleast a 6" extension. It still needs to be finnagled out after being unscrewed. It's not too difficult of a task, but may take 20mins or so if you've never done it before.

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