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Error codes What is "DTC detected in ECM(engine control modual) PCM (?) and any idea on what I need to do. My "check gages" light is on and I keep getting told the error code mean different things. P0523, P1682, P1693. Do you know where these sensors are located or how I can find out? This is a 1999 Dodge Ram 3500 cummins diesel.

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P0523 means the Oil pressure voltage to high. Your Oil pressure sensor may need to be replaced. P1682 means your charging system is to low. Your voltage regulator may be going bad or the whole alternator. p1693 means a Diagnostic trouble code (DTC) has been detected in the ECM or PCM which is related to the above DTC P0XXX codes. Good luck and hope this helps. Keep me posted, be glad to help

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The powertrain control module (PCM) uses the generator field duty cycle signal circuit to monitor the duty cycle of the generator. The generator field duty cycle signal circuit connects to the high side of the field winding in the generator. A pulse width modulated (PWM) high side driver in the voltage regulator turns the field winding ON and OFF. The PCM uses the PWM signal input to determine the generator load on the engine. This allows the PCM to adjust the idle speed to compensate for high electrical loads.
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Indicators and Warning Messages
Refer to Indicator/Warning Message Description and Operation .
Engine Coolant Temperature Gage
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine coolant temperature as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM) or the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the PCM/ECM indicating the engine coolant temperature. The engine coolant temperature gage defaults to 38?°C (100?°F) if:
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The PCM/ECM detects a malfunction in the engine coolant temperature sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications from the BCM.

Fuel Gage
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the fuel level as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM) or the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the body control module (BCM) indicating the fuel level. The fuel gage defaults to E (empty) if:
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The PCM/ECM detects a malfunction in the fuel level sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications from the BCM.

When the fuel level is less than 14 percent, the low fuel indicator illuminates.
Odometer
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Speedometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the vehicle speed based on the information from the ECM/PCM. The IPC receives the vehicle speed information from the BCM via the serial data circuit. The speedometer defaults to 0 kmh (0 mph) when the following occurs:
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The powertrain control module (PCM) or the engine control module (ECM) detects a malfunction in the vehicle speed sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communication from the BCM.

Tachometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine speed as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM) or the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the body control module (BCM) indicating the engine speed. The tachometer will default to 0 RPM if:
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The PCM/ECM detects a malfunction in the engine speed sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communication from the BCM.

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It could be the electronic power steeirng module . With the gauges dropping out like that , the module could be bring down the data bus . Don't know how much you know about automotive electronic's an how the insturment cluster know's what speed to set speedo at an how full fuel gauge is an rpm on the tach .
Speedometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the vehicle speed based on the information from the engine control module (ECM)/powertrain control module (PCM). The ECM/PCM calculates the vehicle speed based on the class 2 message indicating the wheel reference speed from the electronic brake control module (EBCM) if:
• The ECM/PCM detects a malfunction in the vehicle speed sensor circuit.
• The IPC detects a loss of class 2 communications with the ECM/PCM.
The speedometer defaults to 0 km/h (0 mph) if the IPC detects a loss of class 2 communications with both the ECM/PCM.

012 GM Class II Communications

Checking the vehicle modules for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes is the first place to start .
The Power Steering Control Module (PSCM) receives a class 2 vehicle speed message from the Engine Control Module (ECM) via a class 2 serial data circuit. The PSCM uses this vehicle speed message, and other inputs, to determine the desired amount of steering assist.
DTC C0000
DTC C0475
DTC C0476
DTC C0545
DTC C0847
DTC C0848
DTC C0896
DTC C0899
DTC C0900

your best bet ,take it to a qualified GM repair shop .
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