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P1409 my engine is running real rough I replaced the mass flow sensor and the idle sensor also replaced the fuel filter. it smells very rich at exhaust. I also replaced o2 sensors. I have a p1409 electronic vacuume regulator control circuit code what do I do next?

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Check for vacuum leaks and check the vacuum regulator control unit for correct operation.

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SOURCE: Check Engine code P1409

clean the egr valve port on intake use piece of clothes rack clean the built up carbon on inside of port.

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this is EFI and EFI only controls injection.(and spark)

it and all its inputs. do. called sensors.
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we do engine tests.
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vacuum gauge at 20" HG at idle and not BOUNCING
we use tools to find cause. gue$$ing can be endless and super expensive or worse adding on wrong parts.
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8 spark plugs all new, and all 8 COP boots new
boots never every lasted, 25years, nor spark plugs
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Key On Engine Off kPa (psi) 35-45)
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