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The mode door actuators are reversible, 12-volt direct current (DC) servo motors. The heating-A/C systems on this vehicle use two mode door actuators. One for the panel/floor-air door and one for the defrost-air door.

Both the defrost door actuator (1) and the panel/floor door actuator (2) and the are located on the driver side end of the HVAC housing (3), close to the dash panel.


All actuators (1) are interchangeable with each other. Each actuator is contained within an identical black molded plastic housing with an integral wire connector receptacle (2). Each actuator also has an identical output shaft with splines (3) that connects it to its respective door linkage and three integral mounting tabs (4) that allow the actuator to be secured to the HVAC housing. The mode door actuators do not require mechanical indexing to the mode-air doors, as they are electronically calibrated by the A/C-heater control.
OPERATION

The mode door actuators are connected to the A/C-heater control through the vehicle electrical system by dedicated two-wire leads and connectors of the HVAC wire harness. The mode door actuators can move the defrost-air door and the panel/floor-air door in two directions. When the A/C-heater control pulls the voltage on one side of the motor connection high and the other connection low, the mode-air door will move in one direction. When the A/C-heater control reverses the polarity of the voltage to the motor, the mode-air door moves in the opposite direction.

When the A/C-heater control makes the voltage to both connections high or both connections low, the mode-air door stops and will not move. The A/C-heater control uses a pulse-count positioning system to monitor the operation and relative position of the mode door actuators and the mode-air doors. The A/C-heater control learns the mode-air door stop positions during the Actuator Calibration procedure and will store a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) for any problems it detects in the mode door actuator circuits.

The mode door actuators are diagnosed using a scan tool (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/HVAC - Diagnosis and Testing).

The mode door actuators cannot be adjusted or repaired and must be replaced if inoperative or damaged.

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Heated Seat Components
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Do you know what B - body DTC -diagnostic trouble code are ?
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Yes
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Schematic Reference: Driver Seat Schematics and Passenger Seat Schematics
Connector End View Reference: Power Seat Connector End Views
1
Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle?
Go to Step 2
Go to Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle in Vehicle DTC Information
2
Operate the heated seat system.
Does the system operate normally?
Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems
Go to Step 3
3
Install a scan tool.
Display the Heated Seat Status parameter in the driver seat module Input/Output data list.
Start the engine.
Does the scan tool display the Heated Seat Status parameter as Off?
Go to Step 6
Go to Step 4
4
Display the Heated Seat Mode parameter in the door module Inputs data list.
Does the scan tool display the Heated Seat Mode parameter as OFF?
Go to Step 6
Go to Step 5
5
Turn OFF the ignition.
Disconnect the heated seat switch connector to the door module.
Start the engine.
Does the scan tool display the Heated Seat Mode parameter as OFF?
Go to Step 7
Go to Step 8
6
Replace the driver seat module. Refer to Control Module References in Computer/Integrating Systems for replacement, setup, and programming.
Is the repair complete?
Go to Step 9
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7
Replace the heated seat switch. Refer to Front Seat Heater Switch Replacement .
Is the repair complete?
Go to Step 9
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8
Replace the door module. Refer to Control Module References in Computer/Integrating Systems for replacement, setup, and programming.
Is the repair complete?
Go to Step 9
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9
Operate the system in order to verify the repair.
Did you correct the condition?
System OK
Go to Step 3


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Poor Heater System Performance CAUTION
Check all fluid levels and adjust as needed, before operating vehicle for extended periods at idle.
  1. Start the engine.
  2. Idle the engine until the thermostat opens (upper radiator hose will be hot) Is the engine at normal operating temperature (approx. 200° F)? If yes, go to the next step. If no, go to step 16.
  3. Set the mode selector to FLOOR mode.
  4. Set the heater control selector to the warmest temperature setting.
  5. Set the blower speed the lowest setting.
  6. Carefully feel the inlet and outlet heater hoses at the heater core. Is the inlet heater hose significantly hotter than the outlet heater hose? If yes, go to step 14. If no, go to the next step.
  7. Set the mode selector to PANEL mode.
  8. Select the maximum blower speed.
  9. Select the warmest temperature setting.
  10. Place a thermometer into the center I/P PANEL air outlet and affix a second thermometer to the heater core outlet heater hose.
  11. Record the temperature at the center I/P PANEL air outlet and at the heater core outlet heater hose. Are the two temperature readings about equal? If yes, go to the next step. If no, go to step 13.
  12. Inspect and repair the cowl, cowl area, recirculation door, and the HVAC evaporator/heater core case for cold air leaks. Repair any problems found, go to step 17.
  13. Inspect the temperature door operation. Repair any problems found, go to step 17.
  14. Turn OFF the engine. Back-flush the heater core. Start the engine. Select the FLOOR mode and the lowest blower speed. Select the warmest temperature setting. Feel the temperature of the inlet and outlet heater hoses at the heater core. Is the inlet heater hose feel significantly hotter than the outlet heater hose? If yes, go to the next step. If no, go to step 17.
  15. Replace the heater core. When the repair is completed, go to step 17.
  16. Check for low engine temperature problems, Repair or replace as needed, go to step 17.
  17. Operate the system in order to verify the repair. If the system operates properly, the repair is complete. If the heater still does not work properly, repeat the entire procedure.
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Poor Heater System Performance CAUTION
Check all fluid levels and adjust as needed, before operating vehicle for extended periods at idle.
  1. Start the engine.
  2. Idle the engine until the thermostat opens (upper radiator hose will be hot) Is the engine at normal operating temperature (approx. 200° F)? If yes, go to the next step. If no, go to step 16.
  3. Set the mode selector to FLOOR mode.
  4. Set the heater control selector to the warmest temperature setting.
  5. Set the blower speed the lowest setting.
  6. Carefully feel the inlet and outlet heater hoses at the heater core. Is the inlet heater hose significantly hotter than the outlet heater hose? If yes, go to step 14. If no, go to the next step.
  7. Set the mode selector to PANEL mode.
  8. Select the maximum blower speed.
  9. Select the warmest temperature setting.
  10. Place a thermometer into the center I/P PANEL air outlet and affix a second thermometer to the heater core outlet heater hose.
  11. Record the temperature at the center I/P PANEL air outlet and at the heater core outlet heater hose. Are the two temperature readings about equal? If yes, go to the next step. If no, go to step 13.
  12. Inspect and repair the cowl, cowl area, recirculation door, and the HVAC evaporator/heater core case for cold air leaks. Repair any problems found, go to step 17.
  13. Inspect the temperature door operation. Repair any problems found, go to step 17.
  14. Turn OFF the engine. Back-flush the heater core. Start the engine. Select the FLOOR mode and the lowest blower speed. Select the warmest temperature setting. Feel the temperature of the inlet and outlet heater hoses at the heater core. Is the inlet heater hose feel significantly hotter than the outlet heater hose? If yes, go to the next step. If no, go to step 17.
  15. Replace the heater core. When the repair is completed, go to step 17.
  16. Check for low engine temperature problems, Repair or replace as needed, go to step 17.
  17. Operate the system in order to verify the repair. If the system operates properly, the repair is complete. If the heater still does not work properly, repeat the entire procedure.
Insufficient Defrosting CAUTION
Check all fluid levels and adjust as needed, before operating vehicle for extended periods at idle.
  1. Start the engine, select the DEFROST mode, and select the maximum blower speed. Does sufficient air flow from the defroster outlets? If yes, go to the next step. If there is insufficient airflow, go to step 9.
  2. Measure the engine operating temperature. Does the engine reach normal operating temperature (approx. 200° F)? If yes, go to the next step. If the engine does not reach normal operating temperature, go to step 7.
  3. Select the minimum blower speed. Select the warmest temperature setting. Carefully feel the inlet and outlet heater hoses at the heater core. Is the inlet heater hose significantly hotter than the outlet heater hose? If yes, go to step 10. If the hose temperature feels approx. the same, go to the next step.
  4. Test the operation of the A/C compressor clutch. Does the A/C compressor clutch engage? If yes, go to step 6. If the compressor clutch does not engage, go to step 5.
  5. Inspect A/C compressor clutch and controls. Repair or replace as needed, go to step 13.
  6. Determine if the A/C system is operating within specifications. If yes, go to step 8. If no, go to step 11.
  7. Check the low engine temperature problem. Repair any problems found, go to step 13.
  8. Inspect for correct operation of the recirculation door. If the door is operating correctly, go to step 13. If the door is not operating properly, go to step 12.
  9. Check air delivery system. Repair any problems found, go to step 13.
  10. Check the heater core for blockage. Repair or replace as needed, go to step 13.
  11. Check A/C performance. Repair or replace as needed, go to step 13.
  12. Repair the recirculation door concern. When the repair is complete, go to step 13.
  13. Operate the system in order to verify the repair. If the system is operating properly, the procedure is complete. If the system is still not providing proper defrosting, repeat the entire test.
Noise from Blower Motor
  1. Inspect the air inlet grille for debris. If the grille has debris, go to step 7. If the grille is clear, go to the next step.
  2. From inside the vehicle, close all vehicle doors and windows, turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF, and cycle the blower motor through all speeds in order to determine where and when the noise occurs. If noise is heard during the blower operation, go to step 3. If there is no noise, go to step 10.
  3. Inspect for excessive vibration at each blower motor speed by feeling the blower case. If there is vibration, go to step 5. If no vibration is present, go to the next step.
  4. Listen to the blower motor at each blower speed. Is the blower motor making a squeaking or chirping noise? If yes, go to step 8. If no noise exists, go to step 10.
  5. Remove the blower motor, and inspect the blower motor and impeller for deposits of foreign material. If there is debris, go to step 7. If there is no debris, go to the next step.
  6. Inspect the blower motor impeller for cracked blades, loose impeller retainer, or improper impeller alignment. If any of these conditions exist, go to step 8. If none of these exist, go to step 9.
  7. Remove the foreign material, go to step 10.
  8. Repair or replace blower motor or impeller as needed, go to step 10.
  9. Install the blower motor, go to step 10.
  10. Operate the system in order to verify the repair. If the condition has been corrected, the repair is complete. If noise still exists, repeat the entire procedure.
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The heat in my 2006 grand prix will not get hot. We replaced the thermostat and got nothing. So I got the radiator flush and force filled again. Still nothing. Temp of the motor still gets to the middle,...

Are the 2 tubes that go to the heater core getting hot? If so, then the blend door is not opening to allow heat to get to the cabin.

Possible vacuum motor problem, either disconnected, or the controller for the blend door is broken is likely problem.

Troubleshooting by Symptom Poor Heater System Performance CAUTION
Check all fluid levels and adjust as needed, before operating vehicle for extended periods at idle.
  1. Start the engine.
  2. Idle the engine until the thermostat opens (upper radiator hose will be hot) Is the engine at normal operating temperature (approx. 200° F)? If yes, go to the next step. If no, go to step 16.
  3. Set the mode selector to FLOOR mode.
  4. Set the heater control selector to the warmest temperature setting.
  5. Set the blower speed the lowest setting.
  6. Carefully feel the inlet and outlet heater hoses at the heater core. Is the inlet heater hose significantly hotter than the outlet heater hose? If yes, go to step 14. If no, go to the next step.
  7. Set the mode selector to PANEL mode.
  8. Select the maximum blower speed.
  9. Select the warmest temperature setting.
  10. Place a thermometer into the center I/P PANEL air outlet and affix a second thermometer to the heater core outlet heater hose.
  11. Record the temperature at the center I/P PANEL air outlet and at the heater core outlet heater hose. Are the two temperature readings about equal? If yes, go to the next step. If no, go to step 13.
  12. Inspect and repair the cowl, cowl area, recirculation door, and the HVAC evaporator/heater core case for cold air leaks. Repair any problems found, go to step 17.
  13. Inspect the temperature door operation. Repair any problems found, go to step 17.
  14. Turn OFF the engine. Back-flush the heater core. Start the engine. Select the FLOOR mode and the lowest blower speed. Select the warmest temperature setting. Feel the temperature of the inlet and outlet heater hoses at the heater core. Is the inlet heater hose feel significantly hotter than the outlet heater hose? If yes, go to the next step. If no, go to step 17.
  15. Replace the heater core. When the repair is completed, go to step 17.
  16. Check for low engine temperature problems, Repair or replace as needed, go to step 17.
  17. Operate the system in order to verify the repair. If the system operates properly, the repair is complete. If the heater still does not work properly, repeat the entire procedure.
Air Door Actuators/Motors Removal & Installation Recirculation Actuator To Remove:
  1. Remove the right lower instrument panel (I/P) insulator.
  2. Remove the glove box assembly. Recirculation actuator (Typical) gm-10-00-3695.gif

  3. Remove the mounting screws and recirculation actuator from the HVAC module assembly.
  4. Disconnect the recirculation actuator harness connector.
To Install:
  1. Align the recirculation actuator slots with the flats on the actuator door shaft.
  2. Install and secure the recirculation actuator on the HVAC module assembly with the mounting screws.
  3. Connect the recirculation actuator harness connector.
  4. Install the glove box assembly.
  5. Install the right lower I/P insulator.
  6. Calibrate the recirculation actuator.
Mode Actuator To Remove:
  1. Remove the right lower instrument panel (I/P) insulator.
  2. Remove the glove box assembly. Mode actuator gm-10-00-4356.gif

  3. Remove the mounting screws and mode actuator from the HVAC module assembly.
  4. Disconnect the mode actuator harness connector.
To Install:
  1. Align the mode actuator slots with the flats on the actuator door shaft.
  2. Install and secure the mode actuator on the HVAC module assembly with the mounting screws.
  3. Connect the mode actuator harness connector.
  4. Install the glove box assembly.
  5. Install the right lower I/P insulator.
  6. Calibrate the mode actuator.
Air Temperature Actuator Right Side To Remove:
  1. Remove the right lower instrument panel (I/P) insulator.
  2. Remove the glove box assembly. Air temperature actuator (right side) gm-10-00-4356.gif

  3. Remove the mounting screws and right air temperature actuator from the HVAC module assembly.
  4. Disconnect the right air temperature actuator harness connector.
To Install:
  1. Align the right air temperature actuator slots with the flats on the actuator door shaft.
  2. Install and secure the right air temperature actuator on the HVAC module assembly with the mounting screws.
  3. Connect the right air temperature actuator harness connector.
  4. Install the glove box assembly.
  5. Install the right lower I/P insulator.
  6. Calibrate the mode actuator.
Left Side To Remove:
  1. Remove the left lower instrument panel (I/P) insulator. Air temperature actuator (left side) gm-10-00-4357.gif

  2. Remove the mounting screws and left air temperature actuator from the HVAC module assembly.
  3. Disconnect the left air temperature actuator harness connector.
To Install:
  1. Align the left air temperature actuator slots with the flats on the actuator door shaft.
  2. Install and secure the left air temperature actuator on the HVAC module assembly with the mounting screws.
  3. Connect the left air temperature actuator harness connector.
  4. Install the left lower I/P insulator.
  5. Calibrate the mode actuator.
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Troubleshooting by Symptom Poor Heater System Performance
  1. Start the engine. Allow the engine to idle. Does the engine reach normal operating temperature? If yes, go to the next step. If no, go to step 8.
  2. Allow the engine to idle. Select the FLOOR mode. Select the minimum blower speed and the warmest temperature setting. Feel the temperature of the inlet and outlet heater hoses at the heater core. Does the inlet heater hose feel warmer than the outlet heater hose? If yes, go to step 6. If no, go to the next step.
  3. Install a thermometer into the center I/P PANEL air outlet. Secure a thermometer to the heater core outlet heater hose. Select the PANEL mode. Select the maximum blower speed. Select the warmest temperature setting. Record the temperature at the center I/P PANEL air outlet and at the heater core outlet heater hose. Are the two temperature readings about equal? If yes, go to the next step. If no, go to step 5.
  4. Inspect and repair the cowl, recirc door, and the HVAC module case for cold air leaks. If problems are found and repaired, go to step 9.
  5. Inspect the temperature door operation. Perform any necessary repairs. When repairs are made, go to step 9.
  6. Turn OFF the engine. Backflush the heater core. Start the engine. Select the FLOOR mode and the lowest blower speed. Select the warmest temperature setting. Feel the temperature of the inlet and outlet heater hoses at the heater core. Does the inlet heater hose feel warmer than the outlet heater hose? If yes, go to the next step. If no, go to step 9.
  7. Replace the heater core. When the repair is complete, go to step 9.
  8. Repair the low engine temperature concern. When the repair is complete, go to step 9.
  9. Operate the system in order to verify the repair. If the system operates properly, the repair is complete. If the heater still does not work properly, repeat the entire procedure.
Insufficient Defrosting
  1. Start the engine, select the DEFROST mode, and select the maximum blower speed. Does sufficient air flow from the defroster outlets? If yes, go to the next step. If there is insufficient airflow, go to step 9.
  2. Measure the engine operating temperature. Does the engine reach normal operating temperature? If yes, go to the next step. If the engine does not reach normal operating temperature, go to step 7.
  3. Select the minimum blower speed. Select the warmest temperature setting. Feel the temperature of the inlet and outlet heater hoses at the heater core. Does the inlet heater hose feel warmer than the outlet heater hose? If yes, go to step 10. If the hose temperature is not right, go to the next step.
  4. Test the operation of the A/C compressor clutch. Does the A/C compressor clutch engage? If yes, go to the next step. If the compressor clutch does not engage, go to step 6.
  5. Repair or replace the A/C compressor clutch. When the repair is complete, go to step 13.
  6. Repair the A/C compressor clutch concern and determine if the A/C system is operating within specifications. If yes, go to step 8. If no, go to step 11.
  7. Repair the low engine temperature concern. When the repair is complete, go to step 13.
  8. Inspect for correct operation of the recirculation door. If the door is operating correctly, go to step 13. If the door is not operating properly, go to step 12.
  9. Repair the air delivery concern. When the repair is complete, go to step 13.
  10. Repair the heating concern. When the repair is complete, go to step 13.
  11. Repair the A/C performance concern. When the repair is complete, go to step 13.
  12. Repair the recirculation door concern. When the repair is complete, go to step 13.
  13. Operate the system in order to verify the repair. If the system is operating properly, the procedure is complete. If the system is still not providing proper defrosting, repeat the entire test
. Noise from the HVAC Module
  1. Start the engine. Cycle through all blower speeds, A/C mode settings and temperature control settings. Determine the type of noise, whether it is a scraping, popping, ticking, clicking, chirping or groaning, or an air rush or whistle. Is a scrape or pop noise evident when selecting modes or temperature settings? If yes, go to step 5. If no, go to the next step.
  2. Is a tick/click, chirping, groaning or scraping noise present, but decreases as blower motor speed is decreased? If yes, go to step 5. If no, go to the next step.
  3. Is an air rush/whistle noise evident in all modes but not all temperature settings? If yes, go to step 5. If no, go to the next step.
  4. Is an air rush/whistle noise evident only in defrost or floor mode? If yes, go to step 5. If no, examine for other sounds, repeat step 1.
  5. Remove the I/P trim pad. When complete, go to the next step.
  6. Inspect the airflow doors for proper operation and the ducts for obstructions or foreign materials. Were any of these conditions found? If yes, go to step 9. If no, go to the next step.
  7. Inspect the mode and temperature doors and seals for warping or cracking. Are the doors in normal condition? If yes, go to step 9. If no, go to the next step.
  8. Replace the appropriate door and/or seals. When the repair is complete, go to step 10.
  9. Remove any obstructions or foreign material found. When the repair is complete, go to step 10.
  10. Install the I/P trim pad. When complete, go to the next step.
  11. Operate the system to verify the repair. If system operates without noise, the repair is complete. If noise still exists, repeat the entire procedure.
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Changed water pump. put new thermostat in changed radiator blowing out cold air but temp. guage never goes above 225

first check and see if you have flow through the heater core
start the car and get to operating temp. then grab the heater hoses they should both be hot if not then you have a flow problem
you can try and back flush the heater core or replace it
if the hoses are hot then there will be a problem with the temp door under the dash
hope this helps let me know if you need more info on the heater door
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How to remove/instal a heating core on the isuzu trooper?

Removal
  1. Disconnect the battery ground cable.
  2. Drain the engine coolant.
  3. Discharge and recover refrigerant (with air conditioning).
  4. Remove heater unit.
  5. Remove duct.
  6. Remove case (Mode control) and do not remove link unit at this step.
Remove case (Temperature control) separate two halves of core case
  1. Remove heater core (1).
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  1. Pull out the mode door while raising up the catch of the door lever.
Installation
To install, follow the removal steps in the reverse order, noting the following point:
  1. Check that each mode door operates properly.

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