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Should there be any play in the frame mount bushings on the lower control arm or the rack and pinion frame mount bushing?

I have just replaced the lower control arm new out of box. All bolts are torqued to specs. When turning the wheel I can see the arm move at the bushings this doesn't seem right to me. I can also see movement in the rack and pinion frame bushings. On both pieces it's side to side movement not up and down and looks to be about an half inch of movement.

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No there should be absolutely no play at any of the joints, bushings, or mounts!
that does not include the flexible points, they will flex but have no play!

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The control arm will move some, the bushings are rubber. Made to do that so the ride isn't like being in a tank. The rack only has one bushing, on the passenger side. If your talking about the bar behind the rack. It is called a sway bay. It has two frame bushings. If the sway bar is moving up and down 1/2 inch, the bushing are bad. There should be some movement, but 1/2 inch is excessive. Again they are rubber. Any thing rubber is going to have movement. But should be sloppy.

Testimonial: "Thanks Randy the rubber giving a little makes since but on my rack and pinion it has to mounts and is mounted to the front cross member which is solid no movement."

  • Randy Ohler Mar 23, 2015

    The rack shouldn't have any movement.

  • Randy Ohler Mar 24, 2015

    If you have left to right movement on the rack, the bolts are loose and have been for awhile. You'll need to crank down hard on the bolts and tighten them up.

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Randy is correct about what he said .
But you are talking side to side and bushing What bushing the pitman arm off the steering box.If I understand you right you replaced the center link / Lower control arm did you replace the outer tie rod ends that hook to the knuckels
This sounds more like a ball joint problem to me .
I would look at the ball joints problem they are known to go on these years chevys They rivited them in you have to drill and cut the rivits out then you get nuts and bolts with the new kit .
But the parts are cheap 20 .00 a side .
But if your going to do this do everything at once

Testimonial: "This is a rack and pinion system there is no pittman arm. I am talking about the bushing that the bolt goes through the two mounting holes on the rack and pinion and is mounted to the solid front cross member. The lower control arm (A Frame) I replaced also had a new lower ball joint the cost for that was $180 the cost for the ball joint by itself was $59 cheaper yes but a lot easier to just change the hole arm."

  • JOHN LAPIER Mar 24, 2015

    Sorry I mis understood the problem .It is the bushings if you have that much side to side movement 1/2 in is a lot .But something else caused this to happen.Rack and pinion is for light nimble vehicles for quick resonce in turns .Your Sliverado is over 5.5 hundred Lbs .The bushings are sleived rubber then the bushing and pressed into the frame and no fun to replace there ment to not fall out .If you are going to do this look at everything involved and replace it all because the bushing failed for a reason it could be a disgin problem or not correcting a smaller problem soon enough .At any rate good luck PS you may be able to rent the speicl tool to press these things out and you will need to heat them with small oxigen torch but you can't over heat the frame it may distort

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