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My 2004 3400 closed system ,runs hot in town unless heater is on. driving up a mountain pass it gets very hot.on a flat highway runs normal. new t state,resivior cap, both fans work no leaks or smell

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Radiator fan motor or radiator fan thermostat defective/

Also there is a relay that operates the fan motor

In town not enough air passing through radiator allowing it to over temp.. With heater fan running acts like cooling fan keeping engine cool

Highway driving ample air passing through radiator without fan.

Hill climbing requires cooling fan/

Hope this helps?

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May be a bad fan or thermal switch not working. The a/c condenser sits in front of the radiator. It may be that the load on the engine going up the mountain is too much for just the air blowing across it to keep it cool, and the car shuts the a/c off to try and keep engine temp down. Cruising along on level ground is enough to keep things cool. Going up the mountain means more engine heat and probably reduced speed, which reduces air flow, especially if a fan isn't working.
Let car cool off, start engine and let it warm up without driving. Monitor temp and fans. When temp gets about normal, look for fan to kick on. Then when turning on a/c, look for the other fan to kick on. Don't let engine overheat. If one or both fans don't come on, start there. Check fan motor not locked up, relay working, fuse/wiring good.
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It actually sounds to me like you're low on coolant. My Jeep leaks coolant and whenever it gets low the temp gauge will go real high and then drop, and the heater doesn't work well. This is because the cooling system of your car is supposed to be a closed system, full of coolant and no air. When coolant leaks out, the space it used to occupy is now occupied by air, which does not transfer heat well. When 'air' is passing through your cooling system, no heat can be transferred from your engine to the heater and radiator, resulting in a hot engine and no heat at the heater. Then when a pocket of water passes through the system, the temperature gauge quickly falls as the water absorbs the heat from the engine. The hot water that cools the engine is where the heater gets it's heat from as well, so when water passes through the heater core, the heater works, but when it's filled with air, it doesn't.

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