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1999 dodge ram van 3500 starter engages while engine is running only in park or neutral. Had to pull starter relay to disengage starter, also starter relay somehow connected to blower motor high speed

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Check ignition key switch wiring. Could be a short between blower motor wiring and starter wiring. Try switching on high speed blower when ignition is on only (not started). If the starter cranks, then there is surely a leakage/short in the wiring.

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