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CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ON

MY CAR'S CHECK ENGINE LIGHT COMES ON AND OFF. I KNOW ITS AN INSTRUMENT CLUSTER FAILURE BUT HOW DO I FIX IT? WHAT DO I DO FIRST.

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First go to the bank. Usually the instrument cluster is controlled by a circuit board that is replaced by removing the dash, steering column and air bags which are dangerous to fool with. Any yellow wiring is air bag related so watch out.

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