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I have a 98 eclipse. I was putting new tail lights on and then the signals stopped working along with the brake lights. the fuse to the brake lights had burnt so I replaced it. The signals however are still messed up. the hazards work so I know it's not the flasher behind the stereo. any ideas?

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IF THE TURN SIGNALS STILL WORK IN THE FRONT, THAT MEANS THE FUSE & THE FLASHER ARE OK. IF THE SIGNALS DON'T WORK AT ALL CHECK TURN SIGNAL FUSE & STOP / BRAKE FUSE. ARE YOU SURE THE CORRECT BULBS ARE BEING USED?

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