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Rear passenger window doesn't go up. Motor still runs

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Open the penal and put the motor steel arm in the right track and tight it, also check the window see if it is not stable, maybe you need to tight it also.

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The rear windows on my '04 Saturn Ion won't open from any of the controls.

Rear Passenger Power Window Operation
The rear passenger power window switches receive battery voltage through the window lockout control circuit if the window lockout function is disabled. Ground for the rear passenger power window motors is supplied through normally closed up and down contacts of both the rear passenger power window switches and the driver power window switch. When the either rear passenger power window switch is placed in the down position, the power window motor down control circuit is switched to 12 volts and is applied to the down side of the rear passenger power window motor. Since the other side of the rear passenger power motor is connected to ground through the normally closed up contacts of both the rear passenger and driver power window switches, the window travels down. By placing the rear passenger power window switch in the up position, the polarity of the power window motor is reversed and the window travels up.
The rear passenger power windows can also be controlled from the driver power window switch.

Did you try pushing the lock out switch on the drivers master switch ?
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2008 CTS drivers door switches don't work Just replaced battery All fuses are good

Did the switch work before replaced battery ? 2008 CTS ? Cadillac ? These switches are inputs to a control module , DDM - driver door module . a computer of sorts . A lot of thing's can go wrong with these systems , broken power or ground circuits inside the rubber boot from the body to the driver door . Communication problems between control modules etc... Plus the power windows don't use fuse's , has a circuit breaker for front windows - PWR/WNDW circuit breaker 25 amp located in the fuse box under the back seat , Fuse's are used for rear windows - two 15 amp fuse's LT/REAR an rear ,both are in the rear fuse box under back seat. These rear windows are controlled by the BCM - body control module .

The power windows system consists of the following components:
• Driver door module (DDM)--GMLAN device that receives and transmits messages and signals for window functionality. The DDM contains the driver door switch (DDS) which is integrated into the module. The DDS contains the driver, front passenger, RR and LR window and window lockout switches.
• Passenger front door module (PDM)--GMLAN device that receives and transmits messages and signals for window functionality. The PDM contains the front passenger door switch (PDS) which is integrated into the PDM. The PDS contains the front passenger window switch.
• Left rear power window switch--Provides switched voltage and ground window switch signals to the left rear window motor for left rear passenger window operation
• Right rear power window switch--Provides switched voltage and ground window switch signals to the right rear window motor for right passenger window operation
• Left front power window motor--Contains position sensors and a module that receives signals from the DDM and provides a status signal to the DDM
• Right front power window motor--Contains position sensors and a module that receives signals from the PDM and provides a status signal to the PDM
• Left rear power window motor--Contains position sensors and a module that receives signals from the left rear power window switch
• Right rear power window motor--Contains position sensors and a module that receives signals from the right rear power window switch
• DRIVER DR MOD fuse (15-amp)
• PDM fuse (15-amp)
• PWR WNDW Circuit Breaker (25-amp) -- front
• LT/REAR/WNDW fuse (15-amp) -- rear
• REAR/WNDW fuse (15-amp) -- rear


Power Window Operation
The driver and front passenger doors are equipped with power window motors that contains its own module. Each power window motor receives a hot at all times battery supply voltage and constant ground source. When the right front passenger window switch on the DDS is activated to the up or down position, the DDM will interpret the signal and send a GMLAN serial data message to the PDM. Upon receipt of the message, the PDM will send a signal to the front passenger window motor module on the GMLIN serial data circuit. The window motor module will then supply battery voltage and ground to the window motor to drive the window motor to the up or down position.
The DDM communicates via the GMLAN serial data circuit with the body control module (BCM) to control the rear window functions from the driver master window switch. The BCM is hard wired to each rear power window switch with circuits for window up, window down, and an enable circuit. The rear window switches contain internal logic that when supplied with voltage from the BCM over the enable circuit will driver the appropriate window in the direction commanded.
The rear power window switches are supplied with battery voltage from individual right and left WNDW fuses located in the rear fuse block. When a rear power window switch is activated to the DOWN position, voltage is applied to the motor down circuit and the motor up circuit serves as the path to ground. The window motor will drive in the downward direction until the switch is released or the window has fully opened. When the window switch is activated to the UP position, voltage is applied to the motor up circuit and the motor down circuit serves as the path to ground. Ground for the left rear power window switch is supplied at G200 and the right rear power window switch receives ground at G201.

The power locks work the same .

After replacing the driver door switch (DDS) or passenger door switch (PDS), perform the programing procedure.

If you don't know any of what i posted your best bet , have a qualified repair shop check it out .
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Eletcric windows diagram

Window fuse's and relay's may be up under driver or passenger side dash or behind glove box, under the hood and even under the seats, and finally on the ends of the dash. All passenger power windows and locks are controlled thru and get power from the master control switch on the drivers door.

Drivers door window gets used the most so it could be the motor, window switch, relay or fuse.
Could also be a broken wire in the rubber boot going from the door to the body. You will have to eliminate each till you find the culprit. Check that all switches return to neutral when released.
The motor and the relay are the most likely to cause this problem. Try swapping the relay with a working window relay. If it still doesn't work, remove the door panel and remove the window motor.
Turn the motor shaft in both directions by hand several turns. Then plug the motor in and see if the switch will now run the motor. Sometimes that's all it takes to get it working again. I have had to do this with brand new motors. If voltage is not present at the motor connector, either a bad switch or a broken wire exists. Make sure to check for voltage coming to that windows switch. Actually, GM use's a circuit breaker type relay for each window and one fuse for all the circuit breakers. If you have a lockout switch it may be faulty.
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I have problem with My 1994 Ford Mustang windows...they need help rolling up and down. When I push switch I can hear the motor run and a friend said he took apart and they are not off track. Also when all...

I have a 1990 Mustang with power windows. When i first got the car the windows rolled up and down fine, then the passenger one started going up slower than the driver one. When i needed to fix my power locks i had them change the window motor in the passenger side. Now the passenger window rolls up faster than the driver one. The problem is the window motors.......and about the motors still running: the switches probably need to be replaced as well. I can almost guarantee this will solve your problem:)
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The rear passenger side window recently stopped working. i used the key to roll down all windows and all worked properly. i then rolled them all back up using the key and they all went up smoothly and at...

FIRST YOU WILL NEED TO REMOVE THE REAR PASSENGER INTERIOR DOOR COVER TO GET TO THE WINDOW MOTOR. ONCE REMOVED LOOK TO SEE IF THE WIRE IS STILL CONNECTED TO THE MOTOR. IF IT IS, DISCONNECT THE WIRE. ***IF YOU HAVE A MULTIMETER(OR KNOW SOMEONE WHO DOES) WITH THE IGNITION SET TO AUX, OR ON IT DOESNT MATER, TEST THE POWER COMING FROM THE WIRE. IF IT READS 9.5-12+V, THE POWER IS GETTING TO THE WINDOW MOTOR AND STOPPING, YOU NEED A NEW MOTOR. IF THERE IS NO POWER COMING FROM THE WIRE, YOU WILL NEED TO TAKE YOUR CAR TO A SHOP. IT IS NOT A FUSE SINCE ALL THE WINDOWS RUN OFF THE SAME FUSE AND RELAY.

**IF NO MULTIMETER IS AVALIBLE, TAKE A 12V POWER SOURCE (CAR BATTERY) AND RUN THE POWER DIRECTLY FROM THE BATTERY TO THE WINDOW MOTOR. IF THE MOTOR RUNS, BAD WIREING. IF THE MOTOR DOES NOT RUN, BAD MOTOR.
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