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Anonymous Posted on Mar 21, 2011

Brake and taillights not working...I had a towing package on my 2002 Impreza, the trunk was leaking and the control unit for the trailer got flooded and shorted. Now my brake and taillights are not working, the fuses are good and so are the bulbs. The reverse light and turn signals work. I have completely removed the fried control unit.

  • Anonymous Mar 21, 2011

    My guess is I fried the relays also, but before I start replacing parts I want a second opionion

  • Anonymous Mar 23, 2011

    It wasn't a relay- I fixed the brake lights by replacing one of the large 50amp fuses it was ???2. I am going to replace the switch on top of the steering column next because none of my parking lights are working

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I think this is a mechanical problem ... when you brake it refuse to send a signal to the tail lights.
I suggest that you need to check the terminal block connection between them.

  • Ramel Mayormita Mar 21, 2011

    Yes you're right' , cause the that relay are the one switching your tail lights..you've said said that fuses and other lights are working properly which the tail light connection also connected at the same circuit' so it means the problems in on the switching.

  • Ramel Mayormita Mar 30, 2011

    Thanks Sir'

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