How to properly re-install pillion seat to driver on a 2003 fatboy

To remove a 2011 VRSCDX rear fender FIRST remove the main fuse under the right side cover first, then remove the tail light open the seat, remove the seat pillion, remove the fasteners and the passenger pillion, remove the electrical caddy and the six fasteners and the washers from the fender, remove the fender from the inner fender by lifting upward and sliding the fender back, remove the inner fender by removing the rear shocks and fasteners.

To install a 2011 VRSCDX rear fender FIRST install the inner fender and fasteners, tighten the fasteners to 95-110 Nm (75-81 ft-lbs), install the rear shocks using shock mount fasteners and tighten the fasteners to 41-68 Nm (31-50 ft-lbs), install the rear fender by sliding it into the slot on the tail lamp panel and aligning the fender with the bolt holes on the inner fender, install the six fender fasteners and tighten them to 4.5-7.5Nm (40-66 in-lbs), install the tail lamp, install the passenger pillion and its fasteners. And tighten them to 20-26 Nm (15-19 ft-lbs), install the main fuse, install the right side cover and ensure that the headlamp, tail lights and stop lamp and turn signals are operating properly.

To install slide the retention nut over the tapered end of a cable tie strap so
that the larger O.D. of the nut rests on cable tie strap eyelet, then from the bottom of the rear fender feed the cable tie strap up through the fender hole, with the tab on the retention nut seated in the notch in the fender hole pull up on the cable tie strap to locate the nut snug up against the underside of the rear fender and then from the side opposite the tab i.e. from the rear of the fender slide the retention washer onto the nut which will lock it in place.

The FXST/FXSTB seat attaches with a single thumbscrew on the seat bracket. When installing a seat insert the tang at the front of the seat into the channel in the frame and install the single rear thumbscrew which Harley- Davidson has a special tool for which I have never even seen, pn HD-47190.

The FXSTC seat attaches with two fasteners through the sissy bar. When installing the seat the tang at the front of the seat is inserted into the channel in the frame and the two rear fasteners go through the and get tightened to 60-80 in-lbs (6.8-9.0Nm).

The FXCW/FXCWC Solo Seat is attached with 2 locating pins that for removal must be removed from their grommets by lifting the rear of the seat, then the seat is pulled to the rear to disengage the tongue from the frame. To install the seat put it on the frame, slide the seat forward until the tongue locks into the bracket, push the seat forward to align the two locating pins with their grommets and then push the seat down to engage the locating pins.
The FXCWC rider Seat is removed by tipping the seat up and towards the fuel tank, the two fasteners are removed and the seat is then taken off the bike. Do the reverse to install the seat and tighten the fasteners to 90-110 in-lbs (10.2-12.4 Nm).
The FXCWC Passenger Seat Support is removed by tipping the rider seat up and towards thefuel tank removing the two screws and washers from one pillion support, removing the pillion support and the rear seat pillion, then removing the remaining pillion support. To install it install one pillion support but do not tighten its fasteners, install the wave washer and bushing on each pillion support, install the pillion and the second pillion support and tighten all of the fasteners to an initial torque of 30-35 ft-lbs (40.7-47.5 Nm), then loosen the fasteners and then final tighten them to 38-42 ft-lbs(51.5-56.9 Nm), check the rider seat operation and then lower the rider seat into position and engage the locating pins into their
grommets.

To remove the FLSTN/FLSTF/FLST/FLSTC seat remove the passenger seat and seat mounting fasteners. When installing the seat insert the tang at the front of the seat into the channel in the frame and install the seat mounting nuts, then install the passenger seat.

To remove the FLSTSB seat remove the screw from the seat hinge at the front of the seat, raise the rear of the seat only slightly during removal or installation because pivoting the rear of the seat up too high can cause the nose of the seat to damage the leather trim panel on the fuel tank., to disengage the springs from the seat spring mounting pins and remove the seat. To install the FLSTB seat align the seat hinge with the mounting bracket on the frame, insert the screw into the seat hinge from the right side of the motorcycle and tighten it to 14-16 ft-lbs (19.0-21.7Nm), align the bushings on the seat springs with the mounting pins and push the rear of the seat down to engage the seat spring mounting pins. The seat position may be adjusted forward or rearward for rider comfort by removing the seat, removing the nut on the seat hinge, removing the bolts from the seat spring support bracket, (the seat hinge and seat spring support bracket must be installed in the same position in either a forward or a rearward configuration for the seat to fit properly on the motorcycle). To position seat forward install the hinge with the front tab in the slot, install the seat spring support bracket with the springs toward the rear of the seat. AND to position the seat rearward install the hinge with the rear tab in the slot and install the seat spring support bracket with the springs toward the front of the seat., THEN install the nut on the seat hinge and tighten it to 20-25 ft-lbs (27.1-33.9 Nm), install the screws for the seat spring support bracket and tighten them to 15-20 ft-lbs (20.3-27.1 Nm) and then install the seat.

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SEAT REMOVAL:





FIRST reach under the front end of the tail section and press the two seat tabs inward, then pull the front of the seat upward to disengage it from the front of the tail section and pull the seat forward over the fuel tank. Then inspect the seat and mounting bracket on the seat and ensure that the bracket is securely attached to the bottom of the seat as the rivets can come loose. Also take this opportunity to ensure that the passenger strap is in good and serviceable condition.











SEAT INSTALLATION:





FIRST orient the rear of the seat into the tail section making sure that the guides are lined up properly with the two seat posts. THEN push down on the front of the seat until the two tabs engage the front end of tail section and THEN pull the seat upward to ensure that it is properly locked into position.











If you need to remove the passenger seat pillion on an XR1220X just lift the rear of the pillion to disengage the seat post from the grommet and pull the pillion out from the motorcycle tail section. THEN if you need to re-install the seat pillion insert it into place with both of its tabs aligned with the trunk slots, push down fairly hard on the rear of the pillion until it and the grommet are fully engaged with each other.

Right here is Harley's own instruction sheet:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/downloads/Service/isheets/-J04680.pdf

You didn't say what year model your Fatboy was but the earlier models had a large socket head bolt on either side of the seat. If your seat has the original hand strap across it, take the bolts out, pull the seat to the rear until the nose tongue under the nose of the seat disengages from the frame, lift the nose of the seat up and slide it forward out from underneath the strap.

Good Luck
Steve

Normally one bolt in the back and the pillion slides into the driver seat. Pulling back on the pillion after removal of the hold down bolt usually releases it

with a stock seat there is 3 connection points, 1 under each side flap of the riders seat, the last one is behind the seat. If the grab strap is what is giving you a problem, on the left side of the bike where the strap is attached can be slipped down with an egg shaped slip on the strap. Special note: The 2 bolts under the flaps is a real "P.I.T.A." to get back on, if it hasn't been off a few times, and the bolts will strip, so use caution.

If ths is a 1 piece seat ; are all 3 screws loose? If so you may need to pry easily under one of the front 2 screws to get it off

does the rear footpeg ergonomics changes as well? Considering a used Tuono and since I ride often with my wife I was trying to find the most comfortable option. Also would I be better served to look for older models for 2 up riding? the UK 06 model came with a bigger seat and grab handel's the UK 07 comes with a small seat and strap but the seats will change between both so if you get the later model just pick up a seat off eBay. Hope this helps Mick.,,,