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Uthaman Purushothman Posted on Nov 29, 2013

Fuel tank petcock vacuum operated - 2011 Bajaj Pulsar 150

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What exactly is the problem with the petcock? If it is a vacuum operated petcock and it is no longer allowing fuel to the engine check the following:

First, did you work on the bike prior to the problem occuring, and was the bike running properly before this? On bikes I've owned with vacuum petcocks, the petcock has two rubber hoses attached to it. One is the vacuum line the other is the fuel line. On one of my bikes these hoses were nearly identical in size and I managed to swap them a couple times after having the tank off the bike. Simply double check that the hoses are connected properly. If they are not, the bike will run until the fuel is run out of the float bowls then die.

Second, do you have an inline fuel filter on the fuel line between the petcock and carb? If so check it to make sure it is not clogged.

Third, remove the tank and check the entire length of the vacuum line for the petcock. Is it kinked, pinched, cracked, cut, detached, etc.? Look for anything which would prevent the line from providing vacuum to the petcock.

Fouth, test the petcock to see if it is working properly. To do this you will need a handheld vacuum pump, such as a Mityvac (you may be able to get a free loaner from some autoparts stores). remove the vacuum line from your petcock and attach the vacuum pump to it. It should only take one or two pumps to create enough vacuum to open the petcock valve. If fuel begins to flow the petcock is good, if it doesn't you could have a clogged filter screen in the tank, but most likely the petcock's vacuum diaphram is damaged. The Baha is a Chinese made bike and it's possible the rubber parts in the fuel system are not compatible with the ethenal fuel blends here in the U.S. The dealers who sell these bikes are really hit and miss when it comes to being able to provide replacement parts. Even with the internet, it may take some work to locate a correct replacement petcock for the bike. On the bright side, if you are able to get a new petcock, they are very easy to replace.

Good luck!

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First, If your bike is made after 1996, it probably has the OEM vacuum operated petcock. These petcocks are designed to open when the engine is running and close when it stops. There is a small vacuum line that plugs into the backside of the petcock. When the engine is running, this line supplies the vacuum. Check the line and make sure that it hasn't come loose or cracked. It originates behind the carb and goes upwards underneath the tank to the VOES switch and it has a "Y" in the line that reduces the size and then runs to the backside of your petcock.

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Personally, I would eliminate the vacuum operated petcock and replace it with a high quality manual operated petcock. Like I said earlier, if they malfunction they usually shut the fuel off to the engine. There you are, a full tank of fuel but none to the engine. I'd replace it with an original Harley unit for a 1995 or earlier bike or a high quality aftermarket unit like a Pingle.

You need to find this problem before you ride the bike too much. The lean mixture resulting from a vacuum leak will cause the engine to run very hot.
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