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tony kurz Posted on Jun 23, 2016
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Cbx750f clutch slip

What is proper clutch pushrod length. i have changed friction plates, diaphragm spring, cleaned slave cylinder and piston, changed engine oil and clutch fluid, bled system, and yet slip is still worst i,ve ever encountered. bike bought second hand! sorted now, large washers had been assembled in wrong position. thanks for looking.

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