Replaced battery Relay and starter solenoid Chasing wires now with no diagram
Most likely a short in the hot lead to startor or in the switch
The hot lead is bare and touching the frame somewhere causing it to drain power
I went through the harness and all good. With what your suggesting. I wonder if the stator is shorted inside? How would I test that?
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Sounds like the bad battery
Switch shorted or solenoid malfunction
You have a dead cell in battery
I first thought that. But can't see it with second new battery....
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Check your battery, full volts doesn't mean there is any ampacity left, make sure it is still good. Either borrow a load tester or take it into shop/somewhere they sell batteries. Look at the battery terminals and make sure they are clean and tight, add a spot of grease when reconnecting to stop corrosion on conection and recharge the battery fully then try again
Bad starter
Was thinking that until I jumped out the solenoid.
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After checking connections you can perform a load test. It might not have enough cranking amps to work. Replace batt. A bad starter could also cause this but more rare
Starter? But if I jump the solenoid the starter fires up the bike great. I'm thinking a wiring issue cause of that. I could be wrong just the same.
If you bypass the starter and it works then you are down to the solenoid, starter switch or wires. Jump the solenoid to check it. If good that leaves the wires going to the switch or the switch itself.
In thinking the wiring. But dmm is telling I have continuity from switch to relay to solenoid and starter. Fuses are all good. The bike should start.
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Remove and clean battery cables, if that does not work look at a replacement battery. Another test is to turn headlight on if possible and observe, if it goes dim replace battery.
Take your meter and place on the batter posts, not clamp, it should read about 12-13 volts, press starter button, did the battery go to zero, look at cables for if the battery goes to zero and you said that you put a new one, the wiring would be burned up. I would replace cables, because you can test the continuity with meter it will look good, however if there are only a few strands remaining the power cannot flow thru it, if the relay is chattering, it is sign of low voltage applies. Take your meter and go across the relay terminals and press start, observe if the voltage is going up and down. Again if you connect the battery it has a lot ow amps amps available and would smoke wires. . See if you can flex cables with pushing the start button.
Checked the wires for failure. No signs there. I still have battery voltage at the terminals. When I pressed the switch I didn't get any voltage drop at the battery. However, I have a blue white traced wire going into the ignition relay showing battery voltage. When switch is pressed. It goes to 0 volts
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SOURCE: 2000 yamaha vstar 1100 custom. starter problem?
I had the same problem 2001 XVS1100 Custom
this is a starter issue Over time the starter on this bike twists when its under a load.
Look at the two bolts holding the starter on if they are not straight across then its twisted. turn starter back in line with a pair of big channel locks and try to start this should do the trick if this works i would recommend taking the two bolts out and bend them back straight or replace and reinstall starter this should fixya problem
Hope this helps ...............Jimmyfixya
SOURCE: When I engage the starter I loose all eletrical power
There IS Positively a loose connection. What you are experiencing is a draw situation, when you require low amperage everything works normally, when you require high amperage (As when using the starter) it creates a draw higher than the connection can handle. Remove the seat and side covers and while trying to crank the engine carefully look at all the connections to see one that is hot or smoking. Good Luck.
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SOURCE: 2002 Yamaha Vstar 1100 Custom. STARTER Problem
The starter button is used in an open circuit design.
You must press the starter button to "Close" this circuit before the starter will engage. Taking the starter button out of the loop helps support the suspect short. Assuming you kept the starter button wires from touching. :) If not, it is most likely the starter button.
Trace the wires coming from the starter button.
There could be a short circuit. (Same as pushing the starter button). Check along the handle bars and anywhere rubbing could cause a break in the insulation. Try this at night with the lights off.
You may be able to SEE the spark and locate it quickly.
Good luck!
SOURCE: 2006 Yamaha Vstar custom starter issue
The one way clutch that engages the starter motor to the flywheel is chattered or damaged and needs to be replaced. The starter motor turns a small gear that is connected to a large gear by a small chain. On the side of the big gear is a smooth machined surface that the one way clutch grabs when the starter is engaged. The surface is chattered and the three grabber rollers wont jam or grab on the surface unless it is smooth therefore the starter spins but the motor does not. You will probably have to replace the large gear and possibly the three rollers also.
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Steve Pack, it's a new battery, tried another new battery both batteries been tested and are good. I don't even get a click from the solenoid. Fuel pump primes and all lights are bright. Jumped out solenoid and bike starts. Tested switch and it is good. Replaced solenoid something.
go you have a DMM? check power going to starter button and the power from button. Keep one lead on battery negative or a good ground.
Yes, I tried that as well. It went from battery voltage to no voltage at all...
Oh and Lso check amp draw on the starter. Brushes ifnit has Ny could be badly worn
Good point Wayne McNiel.. I'll have a look. The bike only has 7500 km's. Anything is possible.
Checked switch and swapped out solenoid.
If you started it with the solenoid crossed out then you have a power wire to the solenoid not delivering g the power to it from the switch. Starter is good or it wouldn't start with you crossing out the solenoid.
Agreed, it's the reason why I haven't changed the starter. I have power but soon as I go to start. Loose all power in the starting system. The lights are doing as they should when starting. I traced the wiring in the starting circuit. Haven't found anything out of the ordinary. The starter relay is clicking but power gets lost when go to start.
If you had the voltage drop to zero next test place Place 1 lead negative wire using alligator clip of battery go start relay and measure the voltage when start button is pressed. Also did you clean cable terminals and ensure that they fir tight to batter, also inspect the battery for any signs if corrosion or overheating. I'm also curios did the battery go flat when leads only come in contact with battery, do not use the cable connector. I also would take battery to autozone or oriellys and have a load test done.
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