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My harley has a strange ticking noise just started today its at the top of the engine under the valve covers

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Your ticking noise could be most anything. You didn't tell me how many miles are on your bike.

Now, on top of the head you have the typical stuff that's on all four cycles engines with pushrod operated valves. You tappets down below that push up on the push rods. The push rods push up on the rocker arms. The rocker arms pivot on rocker arm shafts that ride in rocker arm bushings. The rocker arms push down on the valve stems that are closed by valves springs. The valves are also guided by valves guides. There could be wear in any one or more of these places causing the ticking you are hearing.

Now, whether or not the ticking warrants concern is how loud the ticking is. If it something that you have to "listen" for, I don't think I'd be too concerned as a bit of valve train noise is common in an engine with a few miles on it. However, if people are asking you what's that noise when you pull up, you need to have it checked out.

Pull the top covers off the heads and check for broken valves springs, missing or busted valve keepers, excessive wear in the rocker arm bushing. I hope this helps, Good Luck and ride safe.

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