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Do i need to remove the fuel tank to replace the top rocker box cover?

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I would. But drain the gas tank first and have someone assist so you don't scratch and bang things up.

Good luck.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 22, 2009

SOURCE: i want to remove my petrol tank on my xjr 1300

no just turn off the fuel tap and disconnect the fuel hose

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jecollinsii

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  • Posted on May 25, 2009

SOURCE: Small oil leak under front rocker box inner

take the rocker cover back off and check the oil breather and make sure the o ring on the bottem of it is still on there

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