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I got a zx9r 98 engine in my autograss car and only got a spark on plug 4 i got power from ecu 2 all coil packs and tried swappin coils and still only a spark on number 4 someone help please thanks

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Try gettin a lend if u can or if not buy some spark plug checkers these go in between the spark plug and the cap you can then see if your coils are sending out good or weak spark or even just a spark by wether or not they light up or by how bright,this isnt a solution just a step towards diagnosing the fault so a solution can be found. if you have done lots of work on this engine getting it in the grasscar then maybe you have nocked pulled on the leads by mistake i would try those first hope this helps Ray

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Hi there have just fixed a mates bike tonite who had a spark on only one plug so what i did was take out all the plugs and with a small file i gently cleaned all the plug tops is an easy enough job so cleaned them all checked for fowling ie black spark heads oily heads or maybe a strong smell of petrol from the plugs these can indicate a problem with the mix fuel oil ratio but when the guy i helped drove off with all the plugs cleaned his bike started fine idled fine and sounded lovely lol is an easy job and try this first before buying new plugs hope this helps

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How do you get engine fire to the coil packs on a 2.0 engine


in all cases
check fuses, and scan it.
and do the test correctly , 2 coil packs are not test like 4 packs. not at all.
The J20 engines
so what country?
ours use 4 coil packs in USA.
outside USA some use 2 PACKS (wasted spark packs)
we cant guess what's under your hood nor, what EFI system is there. ever.
so ill answer for the USA setup 4x cop coils
C.O.P, coil over plug, x4
check fuses first (ig-coil and FI fuse)
check that Check engine lamp glows key on, if not power (elect) lost to PCM/ECU. (fuses blown)
ours is OBD2 compliant so all scan tools made here work.
next, is scan it, while cranking and in every case it tells you why.
the CKP sensor (crank) is behind the flywheel, (yes, transmission pulled.
the CMP sensor (cam) is on the left rear of cam. DOHC J20 engine
do not fiddle CMP, or lose spark timing. (compounding issues)
if you are compelled to fiddle about, match mark it first with a center punch tool or scribe. some later j20 cars the timing freeze jumper is in the factory scan tool only and no on left strut DCL conn. (mark it first)

that is it.. just sold all my suz. they are DOA here."bugged-out"

now my quesitons.
all 4 spark plugs dead.?
or just 2 (2 pack engine)
if just 2, then is it wasted spark 2 coil pack system
then yes, ? then use 2 spark plugs at one time, to test.
not 1 ever.
ask. or tell , or show a photo of your engine, if you want exact answers,
hints, (yes i travel outside usa and see all this...)
wasted spark has actual, old school spark HV wires on top of engine
some J20 have just 2 wires. and other half are direct fire.de791219-83fd-4c6f-8010-585464c0182d.jpg

Feb 29, 2016 | 2002 Suzuki Grand Vitara

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No power to ignition coil


2004 Suzuki Forenza , so say title.
what engine?, 2.0L or out side usa with 5 engines used.
power to.,.

  1. check fuses yet, that be first. (all electrics that.)
  2. scan it next to see DTC errors related to IGN COIL.????
  3. RTM , the manual is 4 bucks read that yet?


https://suzukipitstopplus.com/Products/1027-2004-forenza-service-manual.aspx

so are you saying there is no spark on all 4 cylinders.
that be first, 1 &4 dead or 2 &3 dead. (coil pack pairs, not with wires scrambled, they most not be connected WRONG)

if only 1 pair fail we have a cure.
if all 4 die, other ,,, see?
tests matter, doing all tests on wasted spark, tells you whats up.
test with 2 spark plugs. new.
shells gounded.
1 and 4
then 2 and 3. pairs.
all 4 fail, or just 1 pair? a key fact. on all wasted spark systems.


if you scan and get DTC shows, cmp dead, ckp dead or
ignitor 1 dead, well, ???? do you>?
coil pack
if pin 2 is 0v, cranking
the fuse EF10 is blown or the pump relay open.

to fix cars like this, you need the book, the schematic,
as seen here.
the ecu fires the hidden coil pack drivers.
if one plug goes open , you lose 2 cylinders
if one HV wire goes open, same.
see?
if one HV wire shorts to ground only THAT cylinder goes dead.

pin 86 is 12vdc cranking
pin 85 , the ECU grounds this pin to send power to the coil pack.
pin 30 is obvious, 12vdc all the time.

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Nov 14, 2015 | 2004 Suzuki Forenza

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What is the Wire Order with distributor?


theres no distributor and the firing order for your 3.8 is 1-6-5-4-3-2-the following link shows the coil pack
Buick General Motor 3800 V6 Engine Firing Order DIS IDI ignition timing 3.8 Buick Engine Coil Pack Firing Order Spark Plug Wire Location Which way do the spark plug wires go on & what cylinder is what?
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For the Buick V6 231 3.8 liter turbocharged engine:
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Answers!
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Firing order:
1 - 6 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2.
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Spark plug wire location on coil pack:
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Closest to the back of the car, left to right: 1 - 5 - 3.
Closest to the front of the car, left to right: 4 - 2 - 6.
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Spark plug wire location on engine:
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drivers side, front to back of car: 1 - 3 - 5.
passenger side, front to back of car: 2 - 4 - 6.
.----and this link shows the coil pack to cylinders
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3 8 Buick Turbo Engine Coil Pack Firing Order Spark Plug Wire Location

Aug 15, 2015 | 1987 Buick Regal

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I have coil issues on my 98 4runner. Its a 4 cyl. engine so i have only 2 coils. I bought a pack but both came labeled as 1-4 coil pack. My question is are they interchangeable? can i use one of them for...


Yes, they are interchangeable, as long as both will plug into the coil pack assembly, they should be fine. Coil issues? If you still have issue after new coils, check the ignition control module- igniter. The igniter is what controls the coil circuit when the pcm /ecu signals for a spark.

Feb 10, 2015 | Cars & Trucks

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Firing order jeep Cherokee 2004 3.7 l v6


are you doing spark or timing a cam? what? what is JOB?
it dont matter, the engine, ecu does that, (magic)
but if it has a coil pack like my 3.8 then the coil pack must
be wire right and is marked. clearly on the pack.
they have USA jeeps and Export. country never stated here. sad huh?
and use differnent spark systems (3 types used, but 2 common)
per below.

v6.
is this not a Cheokee? the non Grand ended in 2004. so...
ill go with GC 2005, v6 3.7L
the v6 began in 2005, not 2004, but, maybe yours is the first./

the 3.7 has coil over plug, spark, 6 coils.
and the harness is fixed to those coil so all firing order are
dictated in the ECU/PCM (hard coded)

VIN engine code, K. (not stated)
http://www.fixya.com/cars/t13893405-firing_order_diagram_3_7l_jeep_2006

and already asked, and answered .

my 3.8 (2004) jeep.
is 1,2,3,4,5,6
and is like this.

mine uses wasted spark system.

http://www.fixkick.com/look/odds-ends/jeep/2008-JK/slideshow/firing-order.JPG


so post VIN, or tell what engine is really there.
and the true year. or build date (sticker)

so my answer is.. 2005 GC, 3.7L V6, not I-6
it has 6 cops, "coil over plugs" 6 induction coils
and runs same firing order, as the old I6 did.
1-5-3-6-2-4
but the I6 4.0liter runs a coil pack and is quite different.
these;

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times 6
all laced in, hard.

Dec 07, 2014 | 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee

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Jeep 3.7 cylenders 2 & 4 not firing


3.7 V6, mileage?

most likely the HV wires bad.

then bad coil pack.

did you check spark directly at the coil pack?

i use 2 known good HV wires to do that and 2 good test spark plugs.

both plugs grounded to engine (shell)

that is how you test any wasted spark coil pack. 3 coil pack.

if that fails the FSM shows, unplugging it and check the coil resistances. if wrong the pack is bad,

keep in mind the res. can read ok and coil be bad ,due to internal insulation break down (internal shorts)

if thats ok. the resistance , make sure the wires are not (primary)

to the coil (the low voltage connnector)

if that is ok, its mostly likely a bad coil, (pray not bad PCM)

if tool-less? start with cheap parts , work to expensive. (guessing)





now wasted spark 101.

if one line opens , both spark plugs die. no spark

the wasted spark is wired in SERIES. ( like Christmas lights)

the magic cuts cost of 6 coil\'s.

so if the HV wires are say, cheap , carbon wire and open

you lose, both spark plugs. use MAG wire and end this issues.

get some nice NGK mag wire or Bosch Mag wires.

you can see i hate carbon wire. for good causes.

(carbon string wire)

mag wires is real wire that is coil spun and is inductive. it

has the correct impedance but is not a resistor its and inductor.

and lasts the longest , and worth every penny.

Mar 29, 2014 | 2006 Jeep Liberty

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Where is igniter lacated on rav 4 1998


98? what engine?
the ignitor can be in 3 places on all cars.
1: fire wall. connects to 1 coil, or 2 coils(WS) or 4 COPS.
2: ECU
3 :inside the COPS.

the ignitor changes the induction (spark) coil.
and can be in any of 3 places.

i log in to alldata dot com, so can you (a USA example ONLY)
it has 2 (4pin( Igniters)
so obvious has wasted spark.
power pin, ground pin and 2 , pins to ECU.

it says, in the finder, ignition coils 1and2 with ignitor
in coil finder, and service, it states
remove throttle body to access coils

RTM
see coils, ? see wire they go to one place, the ignitor
follow the those wires, see igniters.

Oct 08, 2013 | 1998 Toyota RAV4

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2006 Suzuki forenza no fire from coil pack


what country? this is the WWW, post country for better answers.......!
Only a scope can see the fast 5mS signals to the coil.
so its either the coil pack or the ECU blown. (wires are always suspect)
you never said , all 4 are dead, or 1 or 2, and how many packs.
some non usa cars have wasted (2pak) spark , not 4 COPS.
state what cylinders have spark and which don't.
there are only 2 ways to fix cars.
1: guess and swap parts
2: use tools. my guess is you dont have them.
some coil packs are active (ignitor inside) others just a coil.
you can test the restance of the coils, with a DMM , ohm meter.
if active you cant.
the fsm covers this on all cars.
https://suzukipitstopplus.com/category/3-suzuki-service-manuals.aspx
the 2006 Forenza as delivered to USA has.....
has a large single, dual wasted spark coil pack. (brick)
it does in fact have , internal ignitor drivers. inside. so can not be tested
with and ohm meter on the primary side. but can be on the secondary
you do know how to test wasted spark , right, All spark plugs must be
attached and grounded for the coil to work,
1and 4 are shared.
2 and 3 are shared.
so to test , you must keep the spark plugs (both or all 4 is best)
attached and the shells of spark plugs grounded.
there is a fuse that powers the coil pack. (usa)
the fuel pump relay sends power to the coil pack.
so of that is dead,so will be the pack. (im reading FSM as it type)
get an FSM.
pin 2 on coil pack is power. 12v.
pin 1,is spark 1&4 drive (fast ECU pulse)
pin 3 is 2&3 coil drive. (scope can see it)

recap, are you using the correct wasted spark testing method.
and are all 4 spark plugs dead.?

Feb 18, 2013 | Suzuki Forenza Cars & Trucks

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