Behringer Europower Pmp5000 Powered Mixer Pmp5000 - Page 2 - Answered Questions & Fixed issues
HOW DO I CONNECT 2 SPEAKERS TO THE MIXER
Unpowered (passive) speakers connect to the Speakon connectors on the back of the unit. Powered speakers or amplified ones connect to the mains output L/R connectors (1/4 inch) near the upper edge of the panel.
10/16/2011 4:38:51 PM •
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I have a Behringer PMP5000, after a gig, I
Yes, you blew out components associated with the monitor sends. There are several components including an RF bypass to ground and the driver IC, IC8 and a decoupling electrolytic cap. The repair is going to be extensive as it is likely you will have to remove ALL the panel knobs and screws to free up the circuit board for repair. I have worked on several mixers and have three of the PMP5000's myself and dread removing the main board. I am going to suggest something you might consider: Many of the PMP's fail either in their power supply or one of the amps. Due to the repair cost I would consider getting a scrap PMP with this problem and swapping out the panelboard for yours. Often you can get one with blown supply or power amp for around $200 and I suspect a repair shop is going to charge at least that to repair your unit... Then you will have a spare parts bucket as well.
10/11/2011 12:00:15 AM •
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Need a power supply for a pmh5000 and install
These are delivered with a power supply. If yours has failed, LIKELY there are other problems. I have repaired several supplies and can coach you through which parts to replace. Often the failure originates with a shorted MOSFET in one of the amplifier channels, usually the rearmost one. Getting parts for these is really hard as FullCompass is the Behringer parts distributor. The SPS1000 supply takes out about $25 of parts when they go. The hardest parts to replace are the IGBT transistors as the heat sinks are hard to remove to get the screws out of the transistors. All the repair parts are available using five different online sources.
6/26/2013 7:37:00 PM •
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After a gig, I accidentally
You blew the driver chip for those sends... NEVER plug the outputs of power amps into a mixer period... These chips are surface mounted and you will probably/maybe have to take the main board out of the mixer unless they are on the bottom side... I have several of these mixers and I might be able to uncover the main board of one I have open... Here is the schematic for the PMP5000:
http://elektrotanya.com/behringer_europower-p0569_hca2400_sps1000_dpx_pmp-1280s_5000_sch.pdf/download.html
Scroll down to "get manual" and click to download... IGNORE other download links on the page. It looks like you might have blown IC8 on page 5 which is one of the monitor sends. It is a standard NJM4580 chip... a little dual op amp that is SURE to be surface mounted. There is a possibility that capacitor C60 and its mate for MON2 may have been blown so check those. If the board has to come off the front panel... "enjoy" pulling off all the knobs, removing the nuts on the 1/4 inch connectors and possibly the screws from the XLR connector to get the panel separated... Been there, done that...Maybe you will luck out and the part will be mounted on the back of the board... Let me know if you need more help... fredy2 on aol.com
9/12/2011 4:09:35 AM •
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I try to fix PSU. but have strange problem.
Driver
It is squeging... Probably going into current limit. Big problem... Use a series light bulb about 150 watt in series with the supply to avoid damage while troubleshooting. Do you have schematic? If not, download one here:
http://elektrotanya.com/behringer_europower-p0569_hca2400_sps1000_dpx_pmp-1280s_5000_sch.pdf/download.html
Scoll down to "get manual". Ignore other download links as they are for viewers.
Likely one of the IGBT trnasistors is shorted. These are a pain to get off the board... especially with the ROHS solder they use. Using solderwick and solder pullit is sure way to lift board traces... need a desoldering station to safely do this. Usually one of the 4148 surface mounted speedup diodes is gone as well. Sometimes one or more of the 2SC2655-Y or 2SA1020-Y transistors are gone. Often the IR2153 is gone, but it sounds like yours may still be good. Whenthe supply is running again make sure to DISCHARGE the 70 volt caps before plugging onto the amp or you will do some "welding".
7/4/2011 3:30:32 PM •
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I need the pmp5000 schematic
Oh yeah... know them well The IGBT transistors fail, the sand coated resistors blow open... replace as a pair. The driver transistors get blown... 2SA1020's and 2SC2655-Y's. One or more of the gate speedup diodes for the IGBT's get blown. The switching reg chips, IR2153 is usually gone. and more...
Here is your service manual:
http://elektrotanya.com/behringer_europower-p0569_hca2400_sps1000_dpx_pmp-1280s_5000_sch.pdf/download.html
Scroll down to "get manual" and click to download. Ignore other "download links".
You will likely find that one of the power amps has shorted... been there, done that several times. Usually the channel A (rearmost) power amp shorts takeing out the 9140 Mosfets and other parts. Often an internal short between an interior and upper layer of the amp circuit board is the fault that causes all this. Use a light bulb (150 watt) in series with the power input when testing after repair. Use an isolation transformer when working on the supply for personal safety. When supply is running again, discharge the 70 volt source caps before plugging onto the amp to avoid welding arcs at the connectors. I have seen the supply hold charge for several days.
6/29/2011 11:13:10 PM •
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We have a Europower pmp5000.
Very strange behavior. Knowing the electronics within the unit, I see no reason that moving the main volume could restore operation. i tend to think that is a coincidence. Possibility the vibration of moving the control caused it to operate again. Do read the tip about PMP mixers I posted on Fixya about the hazard of channel A output if you use Speakon to 1/4 inch cables or adapters. If this happens again, try headphones and see if the signal still comes through them. There is an electronic fuse that can kill output IF the output current gets too high, but for that one you have toturn power off for some time for it to reset. Since you did not turn power off per your posting, that possibility is ruled out. Normally the sliders will NOT fail midstream and would be restored with any slight movement.
4/30/2011 3:57:40 AM •
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Just bought a used Eurocom
Oh my... yes I know what happened. Since it won't come on, the power supply has failed. It takes out the SPS1000 supply and one or two of the IGBT switching transistors on it and often the precharge resistors and the regulator chip and the driver transistors and a speedup diode... in all about $30 of parts and lots of work restoring. DO NOT replace the fuse without repairing or it can blow more parts. ALSO the cause of the supply failure can be one of two things I have seen: A shorted capacitor... either electrolytic or a ceramic surface mount (I have seen both) AND possibly a failure of one of the two amps on the HCA2400 amplifier module. That repair can be miserable as it often is caused by an arc-over between layers of the circuit board. If you have warranty on this unit best to exercise it immediately. The repair parts cost will be between $30 and $50 wholesale. The labor is hours of work. I would NOT recommend this unit to be used for electronic drums at high levels.
Also read about the hazard regarding use of Speakon to 1/4 inch adapters or cables I posted as a tip on Fixya for PMP units. Essentially the A channel output SLEEVE, not the tip of the 1/4 inch adapter speaker cable is the HOT. Inadvertently ground the sleeve by any means and goodbye channel A of the amp. They don't tell you this in the manual.
4/27/2011 8:08:27 PM •
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Have only had it for
Without knoowing what type mic you have and where it is connected we can't help you. Normally a mic is connected via an XLR to XLR cable to one of the input XLR jacks. Then you turn up the top white knob... start at about 3 o'clock. This is the input trim control. Set the grey pan control in that same line of knobs to 12 o'clock. Move the slider up for that column AND move the MAIN slider up.
The speaker should be in the A/B mode for stereo. With these settings you should get mic output.
Please view videos on YouTube about "mixer setup". MOST mixers are about the smae and what you learn about any of them will apply to your unit. One other thing is IF you are using a CONDENSER type mic, you will need to turn on the PHANTOM power switch. Note condenser mics are so sensitive that they must be used in a studio as if they can hear the speakers at all, feedback will occur. Also be careful if your speaker plugs are 1/4 inch, do NOT lett the sleeve of channel A touch ground as the sleeve, not the tip is hot.
4/16/2011 2:33:04 AM •
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I accidentally used the two
Insufficient information ! Were you using a special cable used for bridged mode or used regular cables and just changed the slide switch to bridged mode? IF you had regular cables for A/B and just had the switch to the bridged mode NO DAMAGE WOULD RESULT. The bridged mode switch really only sets both amps to be driven from the same mixing buss as monaural. If you had a bridged cable and a plain one you would have overloaded one side amp. The amps have an "electronic" over current fuse and if you trip it you have to leave the power off for a minute or so and then re-power the amp. There is a HAZARD that I have written a tip in Fixya about PMP mixers. The sleeve of a 1/4 inch plug connected to side A is the HOT signal out of the amp as opposed to the B channel being the tip of the 1/4 inch plug...this assumes you might be using Speakon to 1/4 inch speaker cables. DO NOT under any circumstances use Speakon to 1/4 inch adapter cables as the barrel of the adapter female part on channel A is HOT to ground and you will pop the A amp.!!!! I am afraid that if you were using regular cables taht another failure occurred not related to the setting to bridged mode. The speaker leads for bridged mode are configured by the way the special bridged mode Speakon cable is wired... The slide switch only configures where the amps get there audio be it stereo busses or singly from one side. If after being off for a few minutes the amp still is totally dead, check the main power fuse which is alongside the power input connection in a plastic boat you pull out. IF THE FUSE IS BLOWN do NOT replace it as it will likely cause additional damage. Have unit repaired. There is a weak spot in these that results in arcing between layers of a multi-layer circuit board.
4/15/2011 11:17:03 PM •
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How do i play a cd
Connect a CD player with SUITABLE cables to the TAPE INPUTS or to one of the stereo inputs. Note that a button selects whether the input comes from the RCA jacks or the 1/4 inch jacks for a couple of the inputs. You have to adjust the gain and trim controls to get the level you want. You didn't tell us what type CD player you have so we can give you anymore specific info.
4/15/2011 3:07:50 PM •
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Trying to connect to a karaoke reciever
I don't know what you are trying to do but if you can plug ho! let say a CD player, than plug the KARAOKE machine in the same place...
Be more specific in your question pls...
4/10/2011 2:23:28 AM •
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We just got a PMP6000
Yes, in bridge mode you will wire ONE Speakon that will have the two speaker wires connected to pins "1+" and "2+". You do NOT need the manual to do this, the info is right on the back of the PMP6000 itself. You will plug that Speakon into channel "B".
PLEASE note that you CANNOT go below 8 ohm speaker impedance. If your speakers are 4 ohm you MUST connect two in SERIES which requires special cables and the speakers MUST be identical. You can connect TWO 16 ohm speakers in parallel by daisy chaining, however 16 ohm speakers are NOT very common. With 8 ohm speakers you can connect EXACTLY one in bridged mode UNLESS you connect four of them in series-parallel which requires special cables and great care. Believe me you do NOT want to have an accident with this amp as repairing is extensive.
Lastly, put the speaker configuration switch down to the bridged mode.
This is how bridged mode works: Sliding the switch down basically configures the two power amps in monaural and one amp is inverted so there outputs are out of phase by 180 degrees effectively doubling the voltage.
Remember that BOTH wires in bridged mode are HOT and grounding one while amp is on will likely blow out one side or more.
3/27/2011 7:06:11 PM •
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What is the bridge amp
In bridged mode, both sides are used to drive the same speaker. One side is phase inverted relative to the other so the two sides add their voltage. It is important to note that you cannot go below 8 ohm speaker in this mode. The amps can generate about 60volts peak or about 43 volts RMS. So the net will be about 86 volts between the two sides. With 86 volts on 8 ohms you can get about 925 Watts max... yeah it is not the claimed 1200, but it is a lot closer than the shop vacuums claiming 4Hp when running on 120 volts... Those are peak values that have LITTLE to do with actual true values.
You can't run stereo in this mode because BOTH sides are used as a single power source. The PAN controls will have little effect as the system is in monaural mode.
3/18/2011 10:02:31 PM •
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Power supply prpblem .dead set.the
If you have manual, schematic is in the back pages. If not go to Behringers' site and download PDF (I believe it's under support)
4/8/2013 9:24:23 PM •
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I have a Behringer Pmp5000. I have lost all power
If the input are working, the power supply is still alive.CEASE using it immediately before you increase the damage.
The amp module in this has failed. The usual cause is an insulation breakdown of the circuit board in the amp followed by failures of the switching transistors in the class D amp. It is for all intents and purpose fatal to the amp module. I have repaired several of these amp modules and it requires a lot of time and skill. You are better replacing the module economically as they are $160 for the module. The real problem is the replacements are VERY scarce and the only source seems to be FullCompass.com. The module is an HCA2400.
There are NO internal fuses. When replacing the power amp module, make sure to dischrge the big 70 volt filter caps before plugging the new amp or you will do "welding" when you touch the contacts to the plug.
Also PLEASE read my tip on Fixya about these PMP mixers and a hazard when usuing 1/4 inch plug adapters regarding channel A.
2/21/2011 4:59:11 PM •
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I am an old rocker getting back into playing. I
First thing is to make sure you are setting up the mixer correctely. View a few mixer setup videos on YouTube as a start.
For guitars you want to make sure the inout trim control is set properly. Your faders should be within 10 Db of unity in operation. You MAY or may not want to use the effects in this unit for the guitars. It is esy to overload the effects.
With guitars you will LIKELY need to use sub-woofer(s) as trying to get guitar lows out of this into speakers along with vocals, pianos, and Rolands will result in muddy sounds.
If you have clipping that will muddy the sounds.
2/15/2011 5:40:30 PM •
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