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Anonymous Posted on Sep 12, 2011

After a gig, I accidentally plugged my monitor sends 1 and 2 on my PMP5000 to the outputs of an external power amp, and powered it up.... I realized my mistake, plugged it in correctly, and now the monitor 2 send is dead, and monitor one is very weak. Also the 2 effects channels are dead....what did I do? and how do I fix it?

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You blew the driver chip for those sends... NEVER plug the outputs of power amps into a mixer period... These chips are surface mounted and you will probably/maybe have to take the main board out of the mixer unless they are on the bottom side... I have several of these mixers and I might be able to uncover the main board of one I have open... Here is the schematic for the PMP5000:
http://elektrotanya.com/behringer_europower-p0569_hca2400_sps1000_dpx_pmp-1280s_5000_sch.pdf/download.html
Scroll down to "get manual" and click to download... IGNORE other download links on the page. It looks like you might have blown IC8 on page 5 which is one of the monitor sends. It is a standard NJM4580 chip... a little dual op amp that is SURE to be surface mounted. There is a possibility that capacitor C60 and its mate for MON2 may have been blown so check those. If the board has to come off the front panel... "enjoy" pulling off all the knobs, removing the nuts on the 1/4 inch connectors and possibly the screws from the XLR connector to get the panel separated... Been there, done that...Maybe you will luck out and the part will be mounted on the back of the board... Let me know if you need more help... fredy2 on aol.com

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