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Anonymous Posted on Oct 25, 2008

TCO & HLtherm on Dryer

I recently purchased a second-hand kenmore washer/dryer pair. The washer works fine. The dryer functions but does not heat. Air flow is good. I cleaned out quite a bit of lint. I checked the thermostats, thermal fuse, and TCO. All had an Ohm reading of 0.8 resistance (which I assume is okay), except for the TCO which had no continuity and thus was obviously blown. I also checked the heating element, which had 9ohms resistance, but it looked pretty charred, so I ordered a replacement for that too. Can the TCO blow out even if the high limit thermostat is functioning? Even though my HL-thermostat reading was fine (0.8 resistance), should I replace it anyway?
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Okay, I replaced the TCO with a new one. But less than 10 minutes into the drying cycle it blew, so my dryer still isn't heating. My guess is that something is causing the heating element to get too hot which is triggering the TCO. Before I go and replace the TCO for the second time, I gotta figure out why it keeps blowing. Venting is okay. Lint has been cleaned out. All the thermostats read fine. The new heating element reads okay. Could the problem still be the high limit, or could there be a wiring malfunction?

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I think you've got your bases pretty well covered. I don't see a reason for you to replace the hi-limit as well. At less than an ohm, I see no reason to bother with it.

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