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Douglas Hatch Posted on Jul 01, 2012

My PMP5000 shuts down the mains frequently.

My PMP5000 seems to work fine in rehearsals...it is sensitive to clicks and amps being turned on/off. It shuts off the mains but the monitors continue to run. When we play out it shuts down the mains periodically when we are playing and I am not sure why. Every time this happens, I can just turn the unit off and back on and it is fine...but I'm very frustrated with it at this point

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Fred Yearian

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  • Posted on May 30, 2010

SOURCE: I have a PMP5000, used 5 times now. Last gig I

Cease using it immediately and get it serviced. There are failure modes of this that can do serious damage that requires a lot of work to repair.

If the temp sensors shut it down, it will restore if cooled off... If that doesn't happen service is required.

If just one side of the speakers went out I know exactly what has happened as I have repaired three of these all with same problem. If both sides are down and the rest seems to work, that is an uncommon failure

The cooling fan is throttled as needed and runs only when heat sinks get to a certain temp.

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Fred Yearian

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  • Posted on Oct 29, 2010

SOURCE: you seem to be the

The MON faders ONLY control the output to the MON L and MON R jacks, NOT the split use of MAIN/MON outputs. You MIGHT try varying the MONO fader and see if it varies the MON part of the split output.
Best to use the unit as MAIN L and R to main speakers and use a stereo amp or POWERED monitors driven from the MON L and R jacks. With this, the MON faders will control your monitors as you would like them to.
ALSO make sure ALL equipment connected together is powered from teh same recepacle power system. Powering interconnected equipment from receptacles at opposite ends of the room is asking for damage due to ground bounce and faults.
PLEASE read my tip on here about a HAZARD of speaker polarity if you use Speakon to 1/4 inch cables.

Fred Yearian

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  • Posted on Feb 21, 2011

SOURCE: I have a Behringer Pmp5000. I have lost all power

If the input are working, the power supply is still alive.CEASE using it immediately before you increase the damage.
The amp module in this has failed. The usual cause is an insulation breakdown of the circuit board in the amp followed by failures of the switching transistors in the class D amp. It is for all intents and purpose fatal to the amp module. I have repaired several of these amp modules and it requires a lot of time and skill. You are better replacing the module economically as they are $160 for the module. The real problem is the replacements are VERY scarce and the only source seems to be FullCompass.com. The module is an HCA2400.
There are NO internal fuses. When replacing the power amp module, make sure to dischrge the big 70 volt filter caps before plugging the new amp or you will do "welding" when you touch the contacts to the plug.
Also PLEASE read my tip on Fixya about these PMP mixers and a hazard when usuing 1/4 inch plug adapters regarding channel A.

Fred Yearian

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  • Posted on Apr 27, 2011

SOURCE: Just bought a used Eurocom

Oh my... yes I know what happened. Since it won't come on, the power supply has failed. It takes out the SPS1000 supply and one or two of the IGBT switching transistors on it and often the precharge resistors and the regulator chip and the driver transistors and a speedup diode... in all about $30 of parts and lots of work restoring. DO NOT replace the fuse without repairing or it can blow more parts. ALSO the cause of the supply failure can be one of two things I have seen: A shorted capacitor... either electrolytic or a ceramic surface mount (I have seen both) AND possibly a failure of one of the two amps on the HCA2400 amplifier module. That repair can be miserable as it often is caused by an arc-over between layers of the circuit board. If you have warranty on this unit best to exercise it immediately. The repair parts cost will be between $30 and $50 wholesale. The labor is hours of work. I would NOT recommend this unit to be used for electronic drums at high levels.
Also read about the hazard regarding use of Speakon to 1/4 inch adapters or cables I posted as a tip on Fixya for PMP units. Essentially the A channel output SLEEVE, not the tip of the 1/4 inch adapter speaker cable is the HOT. Inadvertently ground the sleeve by any means and goodbye channel A of the amp. They don't tell you this in the manual.

Fred Yearian

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  • Posted on Apr 30, 2011

SOURCE: We have a Europower pmp5000.

Very strange behavior. Knowing the electronics within the unit, I see no reason that moving the main volume could restore operation. i tend to think that is a coincidence. Possibility the vibration of moving the control caused it to operate again. Do read the tip about PMP mixers I posted on Fixya about the hazard of channel A output if you use Speakon to 1/4 inch cables or adapters. If this happens again, try headphones and see if the signal still comes through them. There is an electronic fuse that can kill output IF the output current gets too high, but for that one you have toturn power off for some time for it to reset. Since you did not turn power off per your posting, that possibility is ruled out. Normally the sliders will NOT fail midstream and would be restored with any slight movement.

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I have a pmp 5000 and i run crown power amps...i lost effects on my monitors and my mains seem to have distorsion...

Assuming you have not got the fx1/2 to mon turned right down it would seem likely that this has failed which would be about the only thing that would stop fx to mon if all else is working. You do not describe the distortion to the mains but if it is related to the fx then this would point to the same thing, a failed pot probably. These are a total nightmare to replace although the part is dirt cheap. Allow your self several hours if you think it is worthwhile. Behringer (and some other) mixers are now made in such a way as to be almost unrepairable using a single smt board that requires total disassembly of the unit to replace even wearing parts (excluded by the warranty). I would suggest replacing the mixer with a new one or a decent second hand one.
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Europower PMP5000, In the Front Panel there is a Main 1 & Main 2 output, can I connect both to 2 Amplifiers so I have four independent outputs or 2 Stereo outputs? Can I Use these two outputs + mon 1...

Yes, you can use both the main1 and main2. They are independently driven and please note that they are PSUEDO balanced drives... that is the cold side of the balanced line is NOT driven as a complement, but is merely returned to signal ground by a 120 ohm resistor. This CAN cause hum problems or noise pickup depending on the connected equipment and ground loops. Best to run this into amps/speakers thaat have TRUE balanced inputs and also keep the power source the same for all devices.
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I have a Behringer PMP5000, after a gig, I accidentlly plugged the outputs from an external power amp, into the monitor sends and powered up the unit. After I realized what I did, I powered down, corrected...

Yes, you blew out components associated with the monitor sends. There are several components including an RF bypass to ground and the driver IC, IC8 and a decoupling electrolytic cap. The repair is going to be extensive as it is likely you will have to remove ALL the panel knobs and screws to free up the circuit board for repair. I have worked on several mixers and have three of the PMP5000's myself and dread removing the main board. I am going to suggest something you might consider: Many of the PMP's fail either in their power supply or one of the amps. Due to the repair cost I would consider getting a scrap PMP with this problem and swapping out the panelboard for yours. Often you can get one with blown supply or power amp for around $200 and I suspect a repair shop is going to charge at least that to repair your unit... Then you will have a spare parts bucket as well.
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After a gig, I accidentally plugged my monitor sends 1 and 2 on my PMP5000 to the outputs of an external power amp, and powered it up.... I realized my mistake, plugged it in correctly, and now the monitor...

You blew the driver chip for those sends... NEVER plug the outputs of power amps into a mixer period... These chips are surface mounted and you will probably/maybe have to take the main board out of the mixer unless they are on the bottom side... I have several of these mixers and I might be able to uncover the main board of one I have open... Here is the schematic for the PMP5000:
http://elektrotanya.com/behringer_europower-p0569_hca2400_sps1000_dpx_pmp-1280s_5000_sch.pdf/download.html
Scroll down to "get manual" and click to download... IGNORE other download links on the page. It looks like you might have blown IC8 on page 5 which is one of the monitor sends. It is a standard NJM4580 chip... a little dual op amp that is SURE to be surface mounted. There is a possibility that capacitor C60 and its mate for MON2 may have been blown so check those. If the board has to come off the front panel... "enjoy" pulling off all the knobs, removing the nuts on the 1/4 inch connectors and possibly the screws from the XLR connector to get the panel separated... Been there, done that...Maybe you will luck out and the part will be mounted on the back of the board... Let me know if you need more help... fredy2 on aol.com
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We have a Europower pmp5000. It has been pretty good for us, but during our last gig, during a song, the sound totally cut out. We finally got the sound back by sliding the main volumn control up &...

Very strange behavior. Knowing the electronics within the unit, I see no reason that moving the main volume could restore operation. i tend to think that is a coincidence. Possibility the vibration of moving the control caused it to operate again. Do read the tip about PMP mixers I posted on Fixya about the hazard of channel A output if you use Speakon to 1/4 inch cables or adapters. If this happens again, try headphones and see if the signal still comes through them. There is an electronic fuse that can kill output IF the output current gets too high, but for that one you have toturn power off for some time for it to reset. Since you did not turn power off per your posting, that possibility is ruled out. Normally the sliders will NOT fail midstream and would be restored with any slight movement.
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Suddenly the monitor one output jack has no sound. If I turn the Monitor one slider all the way up I can hear a very low sound with distortion. The monitor output works fine.

Make sure the appropriate channel rotary knob MON1 knob is turned up for the channels you want into MON1. ALSO test other channels if they can be sent to MON1. The MON jacks are TRS with the tip as the hot and the sleeve as resistor to ground.

Hopefully you have used good practice and have ALWAYS powered whatever you are driving from the MON1 out from the same receptacle as the PMP5000. If not, ground bounce MAY have destroyed the driver in thee PMP5000. They USUALLY don't tell you these things in the user manuals, so it is up to us electricaal engineers to educate.

FIRST plug in a set of headphones and see if sound comes out (it will only be one side and fairly low volume, usually the left). If it does, then cabling and whatever amp you have for the MON1 has a problem. I have schematics and can help you troubleshoot a bit.

Also PLEASE read the tip I have posted on here about a grounding hazard of the A channel when using Speakon to 1/4 inch cables.
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Is there a common problem with his mixer? mine not working at all.. is there a frequent fuse problem? could you send me the scheme plans? thank you! bruno

Has it worked before? There is a frequent problem caused by arcing between circuit layers in the power amp section. There is a hazard that I wrote a tip about on here regarding speaker hot polarity when using Speakon to 1/4 inch plug cables. If no lights come on, the power supply in it has failed, usually because of the arcing problem. If things light up and effects windows can be changed, plug in headphone and see if anything comes through there.
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Try running the 1/4 inch main outs to external amps. If they work, then the power amp module is the likely failure. Repair is difficult and not DIY type of repair.
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I have a PMP5000, used 5 times now. Last gig I

Cease using it immediately and get it serviced. There are failure modes of this that can do serious damage that requires a lot of work to repair.

If the temp sensors shut it down, it will restore if cooled off... If that doesn't happen service is required.

If just one side of the speakers went out I know exactly what has happened as I have repaired three of these all with same problem. If both sides are down and the rest seems to work, that is an uncommon failure

The cooling fan is throttled as needed and runs only when heat sinks get to a certain temp.
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