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SUDS message cycle will start, then stop before water is added with "suds" message. What is the problem?

  • franjonz Dec 21, 2008

    very helpful solution!! Thanks. I only use HE detergent, maybe I should use less. I usually fill detergent to "fill line" only. Same with the fabric softener. I will try using less! Thanks again!

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Your machine, pump is "SUDS" locked, too much detergent in machine, you need to use HE detergent, designed specifically for frontloading washers. no t a small amount of regular detergent, but HE. you can remove the lower acces panel (3) screws across the bottom of front of unit. there you will gain acees to the pump pfilter area, unscrew the filter nad clean it out, chances are its full of allll sorts of debris.

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which is specially formulated to work
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creating suds or foam. Multiple problems
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during the tumbling action which reduces
mechanical energy,and “suds lock” which prevents
the machine from effectively spinning out the
water. In the situation of suds lock, the
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can significantly lengthen the cycle time
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prevent over-sudsing and allow for
better rinsing of suds. HE detergent matters in
soil management also. Though HE washers
use about 1/3 of the water of a
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load is much higher due to the larger
loads. To handle the higher amount of
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formulated with soil suspending ingredients
to prevent soil from re-depositing
onto clothes. Only use detergent with HE marked on it.
Use the correct amount.
The technical data sheet along with that
pesky clogged pump is located behind the
toe kick panel; remove the screws under the
bottom front edge of the washer. Tip the appliance
back to get to them screws. With the screws
removed, the panel will comes down and off.



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Your TECH SHEETS mention "Sud" If too much detergent was used. Why? You get that computer thinking suds is in there and the machine is gonna go into a tailspin. Because of the low amount of water
used in HE machines, it is important
to use an HE detergent (low sudsing)
which is specially formulated to work
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most important considerations of a front loading washer are sudscontrol and soil concentration.
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top loader, the concentration of soil in the
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formulated with soil suspending ingredients
to prevent soil from re-depositing
onto clothes. Only use detergent with HE marked on it. Use the correct amount.
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This should clear the unit of the excess detergent.
1. Check the drain hose and make sure it is not plugged
or kinked.
2. Unplug washer or disconnect power.
3. Check wire harness connections to the drain pump,
pressure switch, and Central Control Unit (CCU).5c0674d.jpg
4. Check/clean drain pump filter of foreign objects.ec9f016.jpg
5. Plug in washer or reconnect power.
6. Check drain pump.31a8105.jpg
7. Check the pressure switch.
8. Verify CCU operation by running a Diagnostic test or any
cycle. Your tech sheet will be behind the bottom panel and will resemble THIS Suds is on page 6

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