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Posted on Jan 31, 2009

My goodman heat pump outdoor unit is frosting up

It has been frosting up lately and i know that there is a defrost timer on the unit but i don't know where to find it or what it looks like. how do i set it when i find it? and what if it keeps frosting up???

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Goodman thermostat TSTATG1152-2.i need help because my furnace operates all day but doesn't maintain the house temperature at night.

It most likely isn’t going into defrost cycle. Look out side at the unit to see if it is frosted over. If it is the defrost cycle isn’t working. You can use water to get the frost off the unit outside. But need to fix the defrost cycle to keep it from frosting up again. It maybe a fuse in the furnace. But defrosting it with water will get it heating again.
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Why is Ice Forming on my Heat Pump

Many people have heat pumps and never realize that ice can form on the outdoor unit. Some have seen ice on their heat pumps but do not know how much is too much until they have a problem with not enough heat. Still others have a backup heat source and never know that they have a problem.

First off lets establish that heat pumps will form ice on the outdoor unit, usually whenever the outdoor temperatures go below about 40 degrees F. This threshold for ice depends a lot on the humidity of the air outside. If it is raining or snowing, the ice will form much more readily and rapidly. It is normal for ice to form on the outdoor unit because it is the cold side of the system when it is running in the heating mode. Because of this cooling, if the outdoor temperature is near or below freezing and there is moisture in the air, it will condense and freeze on the unit.

To keep the ice from building up to the point where it stops all the air flow, the outdoor unit will have a defrost timer board. This operates in conjunction with a sensor. Every 30 – 90 minutes the board will check the sensor. If the sensor tells the board that ice has formed on the coil it will then change the unit over from heating to cooling. This will make the outdoor unit the hot side for a short time to melt away the ice. While it does this, the unit will also energize the back up heat which is often an electric coil or a furnace. This will keep the inside air from blowing cold while the unit is defrosting.
When the sensor feels the coil temperature at about 50 degrees F it will then tell the board to return to the regular heating and switch the coils around again.

If this process fails to work for some reason the outdoor coil will become a big block of ice and look something like this.

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When your outdoor coil becomes totally frozen over it stops all the air flow through the coil and stops the heating process. In extreme case it can be very difficult and becomes a very long process to defrost the coil. You need to practice a lot of patience and care when defrosting a badly frozen coil. A torch or preferably a heat gun (hair dryer) can be used to speed up the defrost process. If it continues to occur the timer needs to be set to defrost more often or either the timer or the sensor has gone bad.

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Need a diagram of Goodman heat pump showing defrost relay area

Turn the power off to the heat pump and get a magnifying glass. There is probably only one board inside the outdoor unit anyway, but look closely through the magnifying glass and you should see a set of tiny needle size pins....maybe two rows of 4 parallel pins. There should be a black plastic jumper across a set of pins corresponding to the defrost length. Near those pins and written on the board there will be something relative to defrost duration. This is why you need the magnifying glass especially if you have any trouble with close up vision.

There is probably not a setting that is adjustable for the intervals between one defrost cycle and the next as they are typically initiated not on elapsed time, but on temperature of the outdoor coil providing input to the board that defrost is necessary.
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The unit is defrosting. This is normal for heat pump systems, and they do it worst when the outdoor temperature is between just below freezing up to about 45 degrees F. The more humid it is outside, the more frost builds up, and the more the outdoor unit will defrost. Below about 25 degrees, most of the water is on the ground (not in the air), so the units will not have to defrost as often when it is that cold outside. If you are curious, you can monitor the unit on a cool, foggy day to see if it is actually building up frost, or if the unit is set wrong and defrosting on a false alarm. IF THE UNIT DOESN'T LOOK VISIBLY FROSTY, IT HAS BEEN SET TO DEFROST TOO OFTEN AND IS WASTING ENERGY! A TECH CALL TO REMEDY THE UNNECESSARY CYCLING WILL PAY FOR ITSELF QUICKLY!

While the outdoor unit is in this mode, it should be steaming and making a buzzing noise. This verifies the frost is being boiled off of the outdoor coil. 25355479-u40lsvyytnuesyuv3fbafhtd-5-0.jpg
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Hi, I have an LG artcool A09AHD aircon unit and after a while on the heat cycle, the unit stops and shows a circle with a snowflake and a waterdrop within the circle. Does anybody know what alarm tjis is?...

This may just be the defrost cycle for the outdoor unit. In the heat mode, the outdoor unit builds frost on the coil. The outdoor unit senses how much frost has built up on the coil and reverses the refrigerant cycle to allow the outdoor coil to warm up and defrost it. After a short period, the unit then restores itself to the heat cycle. This is normal operation and nothing to worry about. During the defrost cycle, you may feel some cool air inside your home.
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I just moved into this home and am wondering what EM heat is compared to just Heat and my outside unit is full of frost what do I need to do?

Hi, EM stands for emergency heat. You should only need to use it if the outdoor unit does not operate. You have what we call a heat-pump. If the outdoor coil is iced up, it should go into a defrost cycle to melt away the ice. You will know when it does as you will see steam coming up from the unit as though it is on fire. The outdoor fan will also shut down during this process. These units will defrost using time and temperature to defrost the coil. If the ice continues to build-up, and does not defrost every couple of hours, I would say you have a faulty defrost board or defrost thermostat. There is not alot you can do as these are very complicated systems to work on. You will more then likely have to call out a service tech to check this outdoor unit for you.It also should have heat strips in the outdoor unit for EM heat if the outdoor unit fails. If it is iced up it is on and running. Thats what I would do is keep an eye on it to see if it does defrost, and if not, you will need to get a tech out to check it. It takes special equipment to check these units. Please keep me posted.
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Goodman Heat Pump freezing up

In your climate usually the defrost timer would be on 90. However if you are in an upper elevation and it gets colder then set it at 60. what model unit do you have? Did they change both indoor and outdoor units? I would have to know the model # to tell if the fan should run in defrost. In most cases I would say no.
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Is it noisy always when running in heat or only for intermittant periods? Depending on where you live every 45-90 minutes of run time the heat pump goes into a cycle called defrost. The fan on the outdoor unit will shut off. the compressor will continue to run but in actually cool mode. this heats the outdoor coil and allows any frost or ice that is built up on the outdoor coil to melt. The compressor can get pretty loud in this mode and you may actually see steam coming off of the unit. This is normal. However if it is noisy all of time in heat check/clean your coils. If this doesn't remedy it have your refrigerant charge checked by a NATE certified Service Technician. Good luck.
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