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LX90 Dec pointing out by 4 degrees over run

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LX90 (non GPS). The DEC is always pointing almost 4 degrees out. This was the result on a RA 180 degree DEC 80 degree test, The RA is spot on 180’ but the DEC is almost 4 degrees out each time. On the first motor stop, the DEC is spot on the 80', when the RA has completed is run the DEC will then creep on another almost 4'. I have found that on a LX90 that is working correctly that the RA stops almost 4' short of 180 and the DEC stops almost 4'short of 80'. then both drives will creep up to the correct settings 180' and 80'.
I have done a flash reload of the firmware, changed the handset for a known correctly working one and changed the motor set. The problem is still there. I suspect that the driver card is faulty but cannot obtain one in the UK.

Has anybody got any ideas that may help me?

Regards

Rick

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Go onto www.cloudynights.com and post this in the LX member forum-- and or go on YAHOO groups and post this in the LX90 forum--

Are you absolutely sure that your TIME and DATE and DAYLIGHT SAVINGS (yes-no) are correct.

On my LX90 the first alignment star is always NOT in the eyepiece but everything is OK once I center both alignment stars.

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