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Anonymous Posted on Feb 20, 2013

Can I install 4500 wt elements in a marathon MR50238? The tank specs are the same as MR 50245.

The Marathon water heater have a lifetime tank. The heater tank dimentions for MR 50230, 50238, and 50245 are the same. It appears that only the element sizes are different.

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1) Product warranty will be voided if you install 4500 watt elements in year-2008 model MR50238 3800 watt marathon tank.
Older 3800 watt element models have been discontinued.

2) Copy following links for Marathon resources:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Review-Rheem-Marathon-water-heater.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-water-heater-element.html

3) Product warranty is voided if element wattage exceeds label on side of unit.

4) Marathon has a problem with elements burning out frequently.
To solve this problem, they suggest installing element with lower wattage, such as the 3800 watt.
Upper 3800 SP610130
Lower 3800 SP210197

If you need further help, I’m available over the phone at https://www.6ya.com/expert/gene_9f0ef4df2f9897e7

  • Anonymous Feb 21, 2013

    Thanks, I'm in a rural area and I was only able to find a 3800 element anyway, The unit is about an 06 model so the 6 year warranty is off. The element arced to ground so I knew it was bad. It's working well.

  • Gene Haynes Feb 21, 2013

    Good job replacing. Older Marathon start to burn out elements, so you might buy a few extras for stock.

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You have marathon water heater?
Thermostat is probably bad. Has gone out of calibration.
Replace both upper and lower thermostats for $25 from local hardware store, takes about 20 minutes, turn off power, take photo of wires before starting. These thermostats can be adjusted all the way down to 90 degrees, and then dial up a bit to reach 110.
Copy following link for instructions how to replace thermostat yourself.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-thermostat-on-electric-water-heater.html

If problem continues, then replace both elements.
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Lower 3800 watt, order part SP210197
http://hometips.me/Mar/Rheem-Marathon-parts-2.pdf
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-water-heater-element.html

More information about Marathon:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Review-Rheem-Marathon-water-heater.html

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Turn power off. Open covers and inspect for burned parts.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-problems-with-water-heater.html#trip-breaker

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http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-test-water-heater-element.html

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http://waterheatertimer.org/Replace-anode-rod.html#audibleBW

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2) You should never by-pass upper thermostat because it has ECO-reset protection.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-water-heater-thermostats-work.html

3) Open following link for image of wiring:
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Marathon-wiring-700.jpg
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Remove red wire from terminal 4 on upper thermostat, and move it to terminal 2 on upper thermostat.
6) For more effective operation, look at lower thermostat.
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Thermostats turn off one leg of the 240Volt circuit, so elements and themostats will always test for 120volts.
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Open following link for troubleshoot run-down:
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Water well.
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Turn off the electricity.
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Check top of tank for any leaks.
Open the top access panel and see if element is leaking.
Open bottom access panel and see if lower element is leaking.
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http://www.gpconservation.com/rheem/marathon-sp213670-titanium-4500w-lower-element
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