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How do I stop the harmonic balancer from rubbing the timing cover?

If the harmonic balancer (also known as the crankshaft pulley) is rubbing against the timing cover, it's important to address this issue promptly to prevent further damage to your engine. Here are some steps to help you resolve the problem:
1. **Check for Misalignment:** Ensure that the harmonic balancer is properly aligned with the crankshaft and that it's seated correctly. A misaligned or improperly installed balancer can cause it to rub against the timing cover.
2. **Inspect for Damage:** Examine the timing cover and the harmonic balancer for signs of damage. If either component is damaged, it may need to be replaced.
3. **Check for Loose Bolts:** Inspect the bolts that secure the harmonic balancer to the crankshaft. If any of these bolts are loose, tighten them to the manufacturer's specifications.
4. **Use Spacers:** In some cases, adding a spacer between the harmonic balancer and the crankshaft can help adjust the alignment and prevent rubbing. Consult your vehicle's service manual or a mechanic for guidance on the appropriate spacer size and installation procedure.
5. **Replace the Timing Cover:** If the timing cover is severely damaged and cannot be aligned properly, it may need to be replaced. This is typically a more involved and time-consuming repair.
6. **Seek Professional Help:** If you're unsure about diagnosing or fixing the issue, it's best to consult a professional mechanic. They have the expertise and tools necessary to assess and resolve the problem correctly.
Remember that allowing the harmonic balancer to continue rubbing against the timing cover can lead to more significant engine damage and potentially costly repairs. It's essential to address this issue promptly and accurately.
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Timing marks on balance TDC

The timing marks on the balance shaft TDC (Top Dead Center) are used to properly align the balance shaft with the crankshaft. These marks are usually located on the crankshaft and balance shaft sprockets or pulleys, and they must be lined up before the engine is assembled or before the timing belt is installed. It is important to consult the vehicle's service manual or repair manual to locate the timing marks and to ensure that the proper procedure is followed for aligning the balance shaft TDC. Additionally, it's recommended to check the engine compression, cam timing, and check for any vacuum leaks.
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Balance shaft repair replace on PT Cruiser

the balance shafts may be out of balance

if guides and chain worn or
some work was done wrong during a timing chain and guide replacement

to get to them ....lots of work
balance shafts are lower part of engine block
number 6 in picture one

front parts of the motor has to be removed
same job as a timing chain and cog kit replacement

I prefer balance shaft elimination option myself
balance shaft elimination kits are available for that motor


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Do the 2 balance shafts in the oil pump have to be timed together

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BALANCE SHAFT SETUP MARKS FOR TOYOTA 2AZ-FE MOTOR

A LOT OF SHOPS ARE HAVING TROUBLE SETTING THE BALANCE SHAFTS ON THE 2AZ-FE (AND IF YOU ARE ONE TOOTH OFF YOUR ENGINE WILL BLOW UP ) I AM A TOYOTA TECH AND HAVE SEEN THE DAMAGE THAT INCORRECT BALANCE SHAFT TIMING CAN CAUSE THERE IS A TOOL COMPANY CALL (TIMING SOLUTIONS) THE TOOL IS CALLED (THE 2AZSAVER) THIS TOOL COMES IN A CASE WITH VERY DETAILED VIDEO ON HOW TO PROPERLY SET BALANCE SHAFT TIMING ,THIS TOOL MAKES SETTING BALANCE SHAFTS VERY EASY
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My balance shaft belt broke while I was driving. It stripped some of the teeth off the timing belt and Im pretty sure it jumped time. I need a diagram to show the timing marks and how to get it back in...

see diagrams from autozone.com. Cam sprocket has an "UP" label, but also 2 scribes on the sides to align to upper head surface. The critical part of the job is keeping tension on the side of the belt that is opposite from the tensioner as the tensioner is released onto the belt. The timing marks must be aligned when the job is done.

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  1. Install the camshaft timing sprocket so that the UP mark is up and the TDC marks are parallel to the cylinder head gasket surface. Install the key and tighten the bolt to 27 ft. lbs. (37 Nm).
  2. Install the crankshaft sprocket so that the TDC mark aligns with the pointer on the oil pump. Install the spacers with their concave surfaces facing in. Install the key. If equipped, install the TDC sensor assembly back into position before installing the timing belt.
  3. Install and tension the timing belt. Use a 6 x 1.0 mm x 25 mm bolt threaded through the cam belt tensioner plate to temporarily hold the tensioner.
  4. Temporarily install the crankshaft pulley and rotate the crankshaft counterclockwise 5-6 turns to be sure the belt is properly seated.
  5. Set the No. 1 piston at TDC for its compression stroke.



WARNING If any binding is felt when adjusting the timing belt tension by turning the crankshaft, STOP turning the engine, because the pistons may be hitting the valves.

  1. Rotate the crankshaft counterclockwise so that the camshaft pulley moves only 3 teeth beyond its TDC mark.
  2. Loosen, then retighten the temporary cam belt tensioner bolt.
  3. If the rear balance shaft sprocket/gear case assembly was removed, perform the following:
    1. If the rear balance shaft was moved, rotate the balance shaft until the 6 x 1.0mm x 100 mm bolt can be installed into the maintenance hole to the scribed line.
    2. Align the notch of the balance shaft sprocket edge with the pointer on the gear case. Install the rear balance shaft sprocket/gear case assembly using a new O-ring coated with fresh engine oil. The balance shaft sprocket should be installed in the TDC position. The pointer on the gear should align with the pointer on the oil pump housing plate.
    3. Tighten the mounting bolts to 18 ft. lbs. (25 Nm).

  4. If the front balance shaft sprocket was removed, perform the following:
    1. Install a suitable and sturdy screw driver or drift through the maintenance hole in the shaft behind the sprocket to hold the front balance shaft.
    2. Install the front balance shaft sprocket and mounting nut. Torque the nut to 22 ft. lbs. (29 Nm).

  5. Make sure the balance shafts and crankshaft are in the TDC position.
  6. Remove the crankshaft pulley, and if removed, install the balance shaft belt drive sprocket.
  7. Install the balance shaft belt, making sure the balance shafts and sprockets are still in the TDC position.
  8. If removed, install the balance shaft belt tensioner and tension the balance shaft belt.
  9. Loosen, then retighten the tensioner adjusting nut to 33 ft. lbs. (45 Nm).
  10. Remove the 6 x 1.0mm x 100mm rear balance shaft holding bolt.
  11. Temporarily install the crankshaft pulley and rotate the crankshaft 2 revolutions counterclockwise, stopping at TDC.



WARNING If any resistance is felt, stop immediately and determine the cause.

  1. Recheck that all of the TDC marks align for both the camshaft and balance shafts.
  2. Loosen, then retighten the tensioner adjusting nut to 33 ft. lbs. (45 Nm).
  3. Remove the 6 x 1.0 mm x 25 mm bolt used to secure the camshaft timing belt tensioner.
  4. Remove the crankshaft pulley and install the lower cover.
  5. Install the crankshaft pulley, lubricate the bolt threads and both sides of the crankshaft pulley bolt with fresh engine oil and tighten the crankshaft pulley bolt to 181 ft. lbs. (245 Nm). Do Not use an impact wrench.
See Figures 19 and 20


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              Fig. Fig. 19: Holding the rear timing balancer shaft-4-cylinder Odyssey



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            Fig. Fig. 20: Aligning the front timing balancer shaft-4-cylinder Odyssey

            1. Install the upper timing cover and the valve cover. Be sure the seals are properly seated.
            2. Install the side engine mount. Tighten the through-bolt to 47 ft. lbs. (64 Nm). Tighten the mount nut and bolt to 40 ft. lbs. (55 Nm) each.
            3. Remove the floor jack.
            4. Install and tension the alternator belt.
            5. Install the power steering pump and tension its belt.
            6. Install the splash shields.
            7. Reconnect the positive and negative battery cables. Enter the radio security code.
            8. Check engine operation.
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            I have the distributor out of a 2000 Blazer with 4.3L engine. Manual says to line up 2 marks on harmonic balancer with timing marks on front of engine with cylinder 1 at tdc on compression stroke. Can you...

            its real simple on the harmonic balancer the outer ring has a line in it on the front of engine there is a timing tab that hangs over the harmonic balancer line up the line with the correct timing degree 4 6 or 8 but to check for compression stroke number 1 piston has to be up and both valves have to be closed hold your finger over the number 1 spark plug hole and have someone tap the key till air blows your finger off the hole line up timing mark on balancer it should be close now you could use a socket on balancer bolt now drop in distributor lining up rotor with the number 1 spark plug wire rotor should point towards number 1 spark plug on engine driver side front distributor wont be all the way down because it has to drop into oil pump shaft just turn engine over with a ratchet on harmonic balancer bolt one or two revolutions and distributor will drop right in to oil pump then install retainer and bolt for distributor then use a timing light while engine cranks to get timing close to start it then time it correctly after it starts
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            Power sterring will not line up with other pulls

            is it a 4.0l 6 cylinder?
            if it is then its not the power steering pump pulley, unless it has been removed and reinstalled incorrectly.
            the harmonic balancer has come apart [crank pulley] the rubber insulator between the center and outside parts of the balancer has deteriorated and the outer ring has moved forward or back.look at the inner edge of the balancer were the belt rides,there is a timing marker on the timing cover the inner edge of the balancer should be just a bit under the timing tab.if not or you see rubber sticking out of balancer face then replace balancer
            a common problem on 6 cylinder jeeps
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            I changed the harmonic balancer and now it is terribly out of time. Didn't touch any timing belts, distributor or the like. Any advice?

            There may be a magnet on the harmonic balancer for the crankshaft sensor,

            The cam and crank sensor call for spark to the plugs..

            Some cars you need a Harmonic Balancer Installer Adapter,
            to make sure everything is lined up and gaped..

            Check the crankshaft sensor for damage from inproper install, also check the wires going to sensor,, some times the harmonic balancer are such a Pain!! to come off the sensor or wires get damage in the battle.






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            Timing cover replacement

            A standard harmonic balancer puller will work. Remove the balancer bolt which is 15/16. Be sure that the large washer comes off as well. If you don't see the washer when you remove the balancer bolt, use a curved pick or something to remove it from the inside of the balancer. Then you can get the timing cover off.
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