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Anonymous Posted on Oct 20, 2014

Why does my 1995 f150 4.9 turn over, but not start up?

It has a new coil, ignition control module, distributor cap and rotor

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OK, First... stop replacing parts. Have you checked the spark yet? easiest way without diagnostic tools is to pull a plug wire off a plug, put a spark plug in it and set it down on the metal of the engine. have someone crank the engine briefly while you look for spark in the plug gap. I will assume you do not! Its time to check for power supply. check the fuse boxes for any ignition fuses and check them. Check them with a test light on the back of them. There is a small metal tab on each side of each fuse for checking for power with the fuse still installed. Again I am going to assume you either found the problem or you have no power on fuses. Now, check the wires coming off the posetive terminal, follow them, you will find a section about an inch long that is larger than the wire, close to 3 times the size. That is a fusable link, They do blow sometimes. check for power after the link from the battery. Try this first OK, Good luck.

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Check your distributor cap. If it is cracked you need a new one. Easy fix. It happened to me once. Took me a week to find it

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