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How to set up governor for Generac GN-220 motor

I recently replaced both intake and exhaust valves due to weak recalled spring retainers. I also rebuilt the carburetor. When I put a 220 volt load on the motor it wants to stall due to engine RPM's not being high enough. I'm unsure how to set the high engine settings there is an electrical stepper motor that runs off both the carburetor as well as governor linkage. Is that how one adjust it ? If so how ? I'll add when I replaced the valves I had that stepper motor off. What I'm calling the stepper motor is electrically controlled through a circuit board on the generator.

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The circuit board controller is monitoring the engine rpm and frequency and thus controls the frequency, via the governor actuator, or stepper motor as you say. You can't adjust it. I doubt this is the problem it sounds like either engine is not delivering HP, or there is a stator short causing excessive load / current draw bogging the unit down, incorrect wiring of the stator output. Ha someone taken the stator output leads off the breaker? check the stator resistance and shorts to ground.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 05, 2008

SOURCE: powermate pm0545005 generator engine runs but no power out

Hi,
I posted a general "how to" about troubleshooting Powermates here.

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John Trevino

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  • Posted on Dec 27, 2008

SOURCE: Porter Cable 5500w generator (10hp BS) will not regulate speed.

While attending college I worked at a tool rental center and learned a great deal about matching generators to customer requirements and troubleshooting customer owned units. There are simple tests that you can perform, however, first some info on what to expect from a generator. Most generators are overrated and under powered. You should only expect to get about 60 - 75% of rating. Example, a commercial honda 5000w generator has an 11hp motor that can only produce about 9.5 hp at 3600 rpm. If a customer needed 5000w of power, we would rent them an 8000w generator because as the generator is loaded to max the voltage will drop. You generator will probably only provide steady voltage ex. 115v at 60 cycles to about 3500w then voltage will begin to drop. New generators have automatic voltage regulator that varies the power to the armature increasing/decreasing the power of the magnet. These voltage regulators suffer a high failure rate and are expensive. If your generator is not giving you 3500 watt at 115v 60 cycles your engine may have a few problems and your power generator end may need tweaking. (I would not expect to achieve 5500w at 115v with briggs 10hp) .
The governor is about 2 inches in diameter and turns off the cam gear inside the engine. It is flyball type with two or three small arms that react to rpm. The faster the engine turns, more force is applied to the governor arm to reduce engine speed. Easy to test, with engine running use finger pressure against the arm to increase speed and you should feel a greater resistance as the engine speed increases. Another simple test, remove air filter to expose butterfly inside the carb. Move the governor arm and check that the butterfly opens fully. If it does not open fully linkage and governor is not set correctly. Next, start engine and load generator up to max and check that butterfly opens to full as the load increases. When the butterfly opens all the way under load the engine is at max. Add up the wattage of all the tools/appliances you used to load the engine to get an idea of max load . Lets assume that the shop adjusted the governor properly, if the governor was not working the engine would over rev. and damage would occur. As you were told the governor spring controls speed and can be adjusted somewhat by bending tab or adjustment screw. But a review of your generator manual or that series of briggs engine will show that there are several governor springs available and different placement holes on the governor arm to attach the spring that will change the power curve. Pulling on the spring can only do so much, however changing the spring to different gauge /turns/material or differnet location on the governor arm will cause the engine to perform differently. These springs are sold thru briggs dealers by part number for your engine. This would be considered tweaking to get a different power curve.
Now for the generator. Some generators have a capacitor incorporated in the windings. This capacitor must measure within 95% of rating. Remove from circuit for testing. Finally look very carefully at the commutator rings for any evidence of brush bounce. If the brushes do not perfectly seat you will lose power. If your generator is brushless you can only hope that the diodes are within spec. because it is too difficult to test them. They also must be removed to test. Finally if your generator has an automatic voltage regulator the only test would be to replace with a known good part. At the rental center we stocked spare parts so that we could quickly find fault. There is soo much to learn and the life too short. I hope this helps good luck, please email your questions.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 13, 2009

SOURCE: wiring diagram for Generac engine on standby generator

here is a wiring diagram for that engine:

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Phil Rivera

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  • Posted on Mar 30, 2009

SOURCE: Runs great but will not produce electricity

To flash the excitor circuit on a coleman ( the generator is built by generac) you need a 12 volt battery. You quickly apply 12 volts via your 120vac recepticals. NO MORE THAN ONE OR TWO SECONDS! Then check you ac voltage. Most of the time the brushes are burnt up when voltage is low. Check the brushes first. You can access them by taking the end cap off of the generator via two to four screws. The brush holder is easy to spot, two wires leading to the front of the amature. Hope this solves your problem.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 08, 2009

SOURCE: 10kw Generac Guardian not cranking, shows rpm sense loss

Sounds like Generator mode switch should be "ON".

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