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The bottom thread is real loopy. I have adjusted the top tension and it helps a bit but still to loose

When set at factory tension machine would bind due to thread getting caught in the bobbin casing and the stitch balance adjustment also help but it makes no sense. I'm sewing on a bedsheets cotton material

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Make sure that the top thread is between the tension plates and not behind them
loops under the material is needle thread tension too loose
disregard the settings numbers as they are only a general indication as thread size and material thickness will alter tension settings
I find that before you thread the needle , pull on the thread and it should require a bit of effort to pull the thread
if not increase the tension until you feel, a bit of a drag and adjust from there
use old scraps of material until the setting is right

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Remove all the thread from your machine. Install a brand new needle. Raise the presser foot and re-thread the upper thread, making sure you are following the correct threading sequence. Confirm that the bobbin thread is threaded through the bobbincase properly. Now, perform another test stitch. Is the bobbin thread still looping?

If you have already tightened the upper thread tension and the bobbin tension is still too loose, then you may need to tighten the bobbin tension. First, mark with a permanent marker where the slash of the screw head meets the bobbin case. This will mark where the screw was originally set before you begin making adjustments and allows you to return the screw to that position should you need to.

Set the upper tension to the halfway point between the high & low number. This is what would normally be the standard.

Then gently turn the bobbin tension screw to the right 1/8th of a turn at a time. Then test. Keep adjusting until the bobbin thread tension is correct. The tensions are correct when the upper thread and the bobbin thread meet in the middle of the fabric.

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How do you fix puckery stitches

Hi, If your bottom stitch is loose, then the problem is the top tension is too low. Often this is because the thread did not get between the tension discs. Be sure to have the presser foot in the up position while threading the machine.
To check top thread tension, pull on the thread before putting it through the needle. With the presser foot up there should be very little resistance. Now drop the foot and the resistance should increase and be adjustable by the top tension control. If not there may be a bit of fluff stuck between the tension discs.
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Why does the bottom tread come out loose and loopy

First, check the stitching to verify that it is in fact the bobbin thread that is loose & loopy. Usually, loopy thread under the fabric is the upper thread--which, if that is the case, is an indication it is either threaded incorrectly or the upper tension is too loose.

Make sure you are using a brand-new needle.
Always RAISE the presser foot and then thread the upper thread making sure that every guide and the correct path is followed.

Set the upper tension to the midway point between high & low number and re-test the stitching. Re-adjust as needed. The tension is correct when both upper and bobbin threads meet in the middle of the fabric.

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If it is in fact the bobbin thread causing looping, it could be that the bobbin case is not threaded properly or the tension is way off.

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How do I adjust my bobbin tension

The problem probably comes from not threading the top of the machine correctly. Take a look here: http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/22521551 especially at the last pair of photos. The blue tangled thread is on the top of the machine, the red thread in the bobbin. Set the top tension to about 3-4, and rethread from scratch, this time with the presser foot raised. This causes the tension disks to open so the thread can get between them When you drop the presser foot to sew, the top thread is then tensioned and won't make loopy messes.
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Over locker loopy bottom stitch

Loopy on bottom means the top tensions need to be adjusted. "All on 3 means nothing" These are tension knobs and are not required to be on the same number.

In the mean time rethread the machine with a different color on each spool This will help you determine which thread is the offender. sew the same type of material this thread set up... tighten the corresponding tension dial. Once you get a good stitch, Lift the food, cut all the threads near the spools and tie off new thread/spools and pull the thread through to the needle. Once it is all threaded again test your stitch with the same fabric again.
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Brother cs-6000 will not sew, the top thread go through and tangles on back, and the bobbin thread is a straight line and can be easily pulled out, please help, trying to make kids school clothes

Hi:

Ok... so try to remember that loopy stuff on top means the bobbin tension is too loose (or the top tension is too tight...)

Loopy stuff on bottom, means the top tension is too loose. (or it's not threaded right)

Now. Get some scrap of the same material. Loosen that bobbin back to where it was. RETHREAD the top, with the foot in the UP position.

Place your scrap under the foot, and sew. still have problem? clip your threads and try again only this time hold the top and bottom threads off to the side as you begin to sew. How did that do?

Adjust the top tension to the point where you start seeing the bobbin thread come up in loops to the top... then back off until the disappear.

Now... be sure you have the correct thread and needle for your fabric. A lot of problem are caused by not having the proper needle and thread.
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The bottom stitch is very loose. I've tried tightening and loosening the screw and the problem remains...HELP!

The bottom stitch is affected by the TOP thread tension :) First go back and make sure your bobbin tension is correct since you adjusted it. It should drop slightly when held suspended by danging it by the thread. If it reels out to the floor it is too loose. If it doesn't drop at all it is too tight.

Now that you have that adjusted look at your top tension. If it is loopy on the bottom side of the stitch the TOP tension is too loose. Increase the top tension.

Now take some scrap material and set machine to a wide zig zag, medium length stitch and sew a bit. Compare the top and the bottom sides of the stitch. They should look identical. Remember the TOP side effects the bottom and the BOTTOM tension effects the top side. Adjust accordingly until they look identical with no loose threads or loops and no puckering (puckering means it's too tight).
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The thread underneath when sewing is too loosed

Usually thread too loose on the bottom is caused by the upper tension being too loose. The top and bottom tensions work together with the top thread making the underside of the stitch seem too taunt or too loose and the bobbin thread causing the top side of the stitch to be loopy or too tight. Select a large zig zag stick and sew a couple of inches. Then examine the stitch. It should look identical on both sides. Look to see which side is drawn too tight, the zig zag being smaller on that side with threads from the bottom threads pulled through. Then adjust the two tensions so that they make a uniform, identical stitch.

Also, when the bobbin tension is right you can hold the bobbin dangling by the thread and it won't spool out to the floor but will let loose a bit with a slight flick of the wrist. Too loose it will just spool out. Too tight and it won't drop at all. When you get that set right then do the above zig zag test to see where the top tension should be set.
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The bottom stitches are not sewing correctly. I have tried threading the top and the bobbin over and over but still I have troubles. Is this a timing problem?

If your bottom stitches are loose or loopy, it's probably because the upper tension is too loose. Make sure you adjust the tension with the pressure foot down and turn the dial just a bit at a time.

Good luck!

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Tension problem

Set the top tension as recommended by the mfg - this is usually between 3 - 6.

Now re-thread the machine with the presser foot up and see if this doesn't eliminated the loopy stitches.

What appears to be an issue with the bobbin may actually be the top thread was not seated into the tension during threading and the tension cannot control the flow of thread to the needle and you get a loopy stitch.

Keep the bobbin case clean as built-up lint can cause stitching problems.
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