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My needle thread keeps bunching and llooping on the underside of the fabric. I have re-threaded the needle, adjusted the tension and cleaned out the bobbin case.

  • suebbrk Jul 15, 2009

    Thank you Mohammed387. I tried the re-threading, it did not help. I checked my model # again and it is actually 385 16221300.
    I have owned this machine for several years and have not had this problem in the past.
    I did however break a needle while sewing recently. Coulkd that have anything to do with it? I removed the broken needle from the bobbin case area.
    If you have any further suggestions, I would be most appreciative.
    Sue

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If you getting loops on the bottom of your material, you need to re-thread the top of your machine. I say this because it is very rare when you will have to adjust the bobbin tension. But if you must, looking straight down at the bobbin as a clock- at 6:00 is the bobbin tension adjustment- lefty lucy, righty tighty. Hope this helps.





Make sure the needle is inserted in the machine properly- a good rule of thumb is the flat side of the needle should go to the opposite side of the last thread guide. Also make sure the machine is threaded correct
There is no standard tension for any machine to be set at. They start at four when they are brand new, however, after years and years the springs become compressed. You could start at four and then play around with it from there. If you are getting loops underneath the material, you are threading the machine incorrectly.

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