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Have Simmons SD9K drum kit. Started having a hum. Tried thru head phone or Mackie board. It still hums. Pulled each cable to drums or cymbals and it still hums. Anyone know what is causing this.

It started having a hum. I tried it in the head phone or thru my Mackie board and it still hums. I pull our each cable to separate drums or cymbals and it still hums. ???

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The hum is likely to be the sound of the ac mains electricity, either because the power supply smoothing has become ineffective in the amplifier or one or more of the audio peripherals or because the audio connections to the input of the amplifier have created a hum loop that is picking up the radiated energy from the mains supply and feeding it into the audio input.

Multiple grounding is often the reason for a hum loop. This is where an audio peripheral is not only grounded through the supply cable but is also grounded through the screened audio lead.

If the hum persists when there is no inputs connected the problem is almost certainly power supply related, otherwise it is likely to be a peripheral that has a faulty power supply or the culprit is a hum loop.

Hi-fi officianados have a number of tricks to deal with hum loops and google could lead you to these.

Grounding is an important safety consideration so appliances that are intended to be grounded must continue to be grounded but the loop could be broken by using special audio leads. The usual lead would use the screening as a conductor and so the screen must be connected both to the peripheral and to the amplifier.
A better lead uses an extra core conductor and the screen then becomes just a screen and is grounded only at the amplifier end and is not connected to the peripheral.

I hope this helps.

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