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I have a 2002 ram 1500 with 4.7 magnum truck

I have a 2002 ram 1500 with 4.7 magnum truck has a loud knock i was told rod and rocker arms need to be done ....i was told by one place i can drop diff and oil pan and do this from bottom instead of pulling motor .... is this true and were can i find a diagram to see the internal guts

  • Anonymous Jun 07, 2010

    I have a 2002 ram 1500 with 4.7 magnum truck
    if the problem is flex plate or torque.....would it knock all the time .....i was pulling a trailer and put cruize at 120km and it was in high gear or passing mode for about 10 km once i took cruise off is when i heard knock....there is no oil preasure drop or loss of power

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There are several reasons why you would hear a loud knock from the engine, and the knock will usually be either in the top end or in the lower or bottom end of the engine.

The first thing that should be done is to drain the engine oil, and then pour the oil filter into a pan where you can see it, and if there is a lot of metal flakes, or a fine cloud of brass floating in the engine oil, you will not want to waste the time or the money trying to repair that engine by dropping the oil pan and replacing the piston rod bearings, it will only be a very temporary patch at best, that is if the patch even lasts for a day.

If you do find metal flakes in the engine oil and oil filter, the piston rod bearings will not be the only bearings in the engine that will need to be replaced, and the crankshaft main bearings can only be replaced by removing the engine and placing it upside-down on a good engine stand. The biggest problem would be that even if you did successfully replace the piston rod and crankshaft main bearings, it would only take one piece of metal flake that was left over in the engine block to find its way to one of your new bearings and then it will take no time at all before that engine will be right back where you started, and that is how important just the cleaning process is in repairing or replacing internal engine components.

If you do not find any metal in the engine oil or oil filter, then you should attempt to find the actual cause of the knock before you decide how to repair the engine, and you will have to remove the engine oil pan to inspect the rod bearings, and if you do remove the engine oil pan make sure that when you inspect the rod bearings that you only do so one at a time because you can not mix up the rod caps, and be very sure that when you remove a rod cap that you do replace it the same way that it came off, and if you turn around the rod cap and install it the wrong way or scratch the crankshaft bearing surface the rod bearing will fail.

If you can hear the knocking louder from under the vehicle then the most likely causes for a lower end engine knock are a damaged piston, worn out piston rod bearings, a broken piston rod, a broken flex-plate, and sometimes loose torque converter to flex-plate bolts, and the only parts that you can really check out without opening up the engine would be a broken flex-plate, or for any loose torque converter to flex-plate bolts.

If you can hear the knocking more from the top of the engine, then the most likely causes for an upper engine knock would be a faulty lifter, or broken rocker arm, or a broken valve spring allowing the valve to contact the piston, and it will require the removal of the valve covers and possibly the intake manifold to inspect for the problem.

If you have any doubts then it would be a good idea to consider a good used engine that you can hear run before you buy it, or a rebuilt engine for that vehicle.

I hope that this information will help you out and save you some time and a lot of money.

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  • Anonymous Jun 07, 2010

    Yes, it very well could knock all of the time , especially if the flex-plate is cracked or broken, and they can both be even louder than a rod knock.



    If it happened while you were towing something then there is a good chance that the knocking noise that you are hearing is actually coming from the torque converter or transmission itself, and you might want to listen under the vehicle to try and determine if the knocking sound is in fact coming from the engine or the transmission.

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My son is going to drop the oil pan and replace the rod bearings from the bottom so yes it can be done without pulling the engine.

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