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Fender HRD - clean channel works fine, drive & more drive VERY low volume, like a headphone across the room w/ all 3 volumes at 10. LED works fine in drive/more drive. All same w/ footswitch, different 12ax7's. Changed out Q1 & Q2 FET J111's, no change. Had installed Fromel Mod, and pilot light shorted out, smoked 2 pilot light wires. Put in new light and wires to it. Can hear drive/more drive, they get good distortion sounds, just like 1/4 watt output. Clean channel great so power section ok. Problem between drive pre-amp & power section? Opamp? switch? Help. please! Wayne

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Wayne, There's a time to take the amp to a pro shop andf get it done right. It' saves time and headaches, and also keeps you from inadvertantly smoking other parts or yourself. Now is that time.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 14, 2009

SOURCE: Fender Hor Rod deville footswitch

If the footswitch is not switching correctly, open it up and check for any shorts or a defective switch. Sounds like it's a problem with the switch.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 09, 2009

SOURCE: Fender Concert II preamp is faint and distorted on 2 channel

It sounds like a job for a technician. There are high voltages in the chasis and the potential for a serious shock to the unwary. 

That said, I can suggest several possibilities.

First, make sure the controls aren't causing the problem. Contacts can build up dirt and oxides and block the signal. Try twiddling the controls and see if the problem comes and goes, or if you hear scratchy noises. If symptoms are found, buy a contact cleaner spray, take out the chasis after unplugging and letting it set for an hour, being very careful not to touch any exposed conductors inside. You'll see some holes in the control bodies; squirt cleaner for 2-5 seconds and work the controls.
Also see if the problem happens without the footswitch, and try the channel switches several times - same problem, dirt and oxidation.

Other possibilities - cathode bypass capacitors drying up, and it looks like the amp uses some opto-couplers at various stages. 

Fred Yearian

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  • Posted on Jan 02, 2010

SOURCE: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe Footswitch

Main thing to verify is that the particular footswitch and cable you have is specifically for that amp. If it is not the right one, that is your problem as there is very little compatibility among footswitches.
Looking at the schematic, plugging in JUST the cable shifts operation as you observed. This uses a crazy circuit in which AC is applied on the cable and the footswitch has a diode each direction that causes the amp to shift between the states. when you plug a bare cable in, it disconnects the internal diodes and switches for control at the amp, hence the signals float.
You should investigate the footswitch to make sure it is the right type with the diodes resistors and caps that is for the Fender Deluxe.

You can find the schematic for the amp here:

http://www.fender.com/support/amp_schematics/pdfs/Hot_Rod_Deluxe_Schematic.pdf

Look at the circuitry of the switches on the schematic at C8. Your pedal should have similar circuitry. Assuming your cable is good, the problem would be in the pedal itself.

gklohn

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  • Posted on Oct 25, 2010

SOURCE: Mi fender rot rod deluxe has almost no power, the

CHECK VOLUME CONTROL BUTTON.

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Matthew Spark

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  • Posted on Mar 09, 2011

SOURCE: on low volume using the

try a differrent speaker of suitable wattage and ohmage (displayed with a number next to a ? symbol on the back of the speaker),

or

remove the original amp speaker and gently push in and out on it, checking for uneven resistance or scratching. the speaker should retract and return smoothly, without any scratchiness or uneven resistance from within, and if there is any of this scratchiness or uneven resistance from within, the speaker is likely damaged from too much wattage or distortion.

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To get the most out of this amp, try reading the manual, available online here:
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