With LED intensity changing with operations, that MIGHT be a symptom of the power supply going into current limiting mode.
The first thing I would do is to check the power supply voltages with an oscilloscope to assure that the voltages are stable and not dipping...
Now from my experience when I hear that a transformer had to be replaced that means it suffered over voltage or under frequency. I would IMMEDIATELY suspect that one or more of the rectifier diodes might be open. With only half wave into the caps the voltage will dip below what the regulators can handle giving weird effects. Check the +/- 16 volts with a scope that they are PURE DC and don't have ripple due to either damaged diodes or C6 or C7 being degraded. I assume you have a schematic... if you don't here is a link:
http://elektrotanya.com/mackie_1604-vlz-pro_mixer.pdf/download.html
Thanks a lot for your answer.
Unfortunately I don't have an oscilloscope with me. Do you think I can test the rectifiers diodes with a normal tester? It's quite frustrating to get a great and helpfull answer but don't be then able to continue with the tests. Do you suggest to buy all the rectifiers diodes new?
Thanks as well for the link and your time.
Without a scope it is hard... IF you CAN disconnect the leads from the transformer to the diode bridge you can test the diodes with a multimeter that has a diode position on the selector. Expect to have around 0.7 volts measured in one in direction of the leads and nothing in the other usually indicated as full scale. If we were the leave the transformer connected the readings would be inconclusive as there would be two paths for each test and a diode could be open and undetected. Diodes are cheap, HOWEVER I do not recommend changing unless one is found to be bad as sometimes circuit board damage occurs in removing them.
IF YOU FIND ONE BAD, replace them all as they have taken a hit. It is very hard to test the ripple without a scope as far as the filter capacitors go. SOMETIMES what I do for a quick and dirty is to just parallel a capacitor of say half the value or whatever I can find in my parts supply with clip leads and look for any change of symptoms...
Ok, luckyness is not part of me....I have to wait for tomorrow to go buy a new battery for my digital multimeter which has the diodes test function... I can disconnect the transformer, it's connected on the board by a molex connector. In the meantime I tryed with the analog multimeter set to Ohm x1 to check all the diodes....in fact some are conducing in both side, but again I really don't know if other components are influencing the value I see on the tester. The diodes are D10-11 and D12-13, they are 1N4002 diodes, would it be ok a 1N4007?
I see the schematic link you send me but I can just see the first picture...no way to download the pdf...but I think it is the same I have.
Where you connect this capacitor with clips for quick test?
If some conduct both ways at least one is bad... replace them all.
1N4007's are fine... they just have a higher breakdown voltage which is better. 4002's are kind of low and can get punctured with voltage spikes. When they do, they can wreck the caps that follow. Be aware that the one you replaced MAY be damaged again. You regular VOM is a perfectly good thing to test with.
Sorry for my ignorance but what mean VOM? In the meantime I found some spare 1N4007 at home ...but just 3 instead of 4...again shot of unlucky. I replaced these 3 but clearly nothing changed...probably still the last one I cannot change is influencing everything...I was just thinking to see some really small change on the leds light intensity but everything is like before...I know...quite dirty and amateur try. Another problem I have is that the last electronic shop here in town closed almost 2 years ago and I should order everything on the web, I'm wondering if it make sense to order all the components of the supply board to don't risk to make many small orders...first diodes...then capacitors. With your great help I start to understand a bit better how it work but I don't know which and how many components have an important role in this problem I have.
Hi, I finally got the battery for my digital tester. All the diodes seems to be ok, one side show a value btw 550-650 (I suppose my tester just doesn't show the "0." in diode function) and one side no value/infinite. The problem is that also the one I removed seems to be ok...and the new one I changed give me wrong value. Could it be that something else in that part of the circuit is influencing my reading? Another thing I noticed is that the new transformer make a light noise and as soon as I connect the supply board to the main board, U1 and U2 get quite warm. Hope in your help and as well let me know if I should start to pay for your help, for me it's totally understandable and I would also appreciate to do it, I'm just new to this community and I didn't get how and when I should pay someone for help.
Silicon diodes drop between 550 and 700 mv and one direction should read that when transformer is disconnected. One directio should read between those values an near infinity the other. VOM = Volt-Ohmmeter.
NO, no need to pay for help... The regulators do get warm but should still be able to be touched. Check that they are each outputting 16 volts. If one is way under that then we have something to go on.
I tested them, The led voltage output is 15.8V (pin 3-2) and -15.8V (pin 3-4) Pin 3-3 is the G-Led. The second 16Volt output are 16.1V (pin 3-5) and -16.12V (pin 3-7) Pin 3-6 is Channel GND. Then I tested them again with the main board connected. The led voltage became 14.18V instead 15.8V. The others values doesn't change. Honestly, if there would not be the aluminium structure...where the power supply board,the transformer and U1,U2 are screwed to dissipate,the last 2 would be really hot. Already like this, after 10 minutes...the aluminium part where U1-2 are became really warm, but still touchable. You can imagine without the panel.
The regulator chipsdo get warm but you should be able to hold onto them without burning yourself. If you find the voltage readings are correct, they are probably OK. If one or both voltage are out of tolerance 5% or more, then there is trouble.
When checking diodes, the reading you get in the forward direction is the milli-volts of the diode drop which is normally in the range of 550 to 700 for silicon diodes... Your readings sound correct.. Those voltaage readings are important to measure.They should be in the range of 15 to 16.5 volts for each polarity. If one or both are way low we likely hav a bypass capacitor that has failed and is partially shorted. Sometimes you can detect which one by feeling for high temp OR can see leakage or a bulging can.
Thanks again for your patience. I had a look, but each capacitor looks really good, no high temp,no leakage or bulging can....first time I'm sad to don't see something broke.....Honestly if U1-2 would not be screwed on the panel....but leaved on "air" they would be impossible to touch...too hot. Do you think there is some other test to do? Could the problem be on the main board? I Already checked there the capacitors, and they looks good.
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Hi and really thanks a lot.
Unfortunately I don't have an oscilloscope with me. Is there a way to check with a tester if the rectifiers diodes are working wrong?
Its frustrating to get a great and helpfull answer but don't be then able to continue with the tests....because I dont have the equipments.
Thanks for the link..and of course for your time. So it looks that if I cannot continue testing with a tester...I have to buy all the rectifiers new.
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